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Turnaround Schedule

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Sat, 2004-04-17 20:31
John Nixon
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Dear Fellow Members,
I work for a pipeline rehabilitation firm in Houston, TX. I actually am on the sales side of the business now but was in project controls for many years...

I am trying to create a cost-benefit analysis where I take a "typical" boilerplate refinery turnaround schedule (polyethylene or ethylene plant or something like that...) and then demonstrate how in reducing the pipe rehabilitation component of the turnaround my firm’s technology can significantly provide an economic benefit to the client

What I would do is take a P3 or Microsoft schedule, export to Excel, run a C-B analysis (cost-benefit), and then be able to demonstrate the true value of the solution (reduced impact of deferred revenue from shutdown)....

So, can anyone help me with obtaining a P3 or Microsoft-based turnaround schedule?

If you can, please email me at jnixon@verline.com

Cheers,
John
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Thu, 2020-06-04 06:45
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Donna Ureta
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Groups: Civil Engineering, Petro-Chem / Oil & Gas, TURNAROUND & SHUTDOWN (T/A & S/D), Women in Planning & Scheduling (WiPS)

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Thu, 2004-04-22 07:44
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John Nixon
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Question - is there anyway to do comparative analysis of project-to-project (in SureTrak or MS Project) other than exporting to Excel and using Excel capabilities.... something inherent to SureTrak that I have missed?
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Thu, 2004-04-22 07:40
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John Nixon
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Wow... I could not ask for more. What a wonderful forum.. People who can actually help one another! Anything you can find would be GREAT!

John

PS - my email is jnixon@verline.com
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Sun, 2004-04-18 22:13
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Bernard Ertl
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If I get some time, I’ll try and find an old turnaround schedule with some waste water piping replacement/repair.

Bernard Ertl
InterPlan Systems - ATC Professional Shutdown / Turnaround Management System
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Sun, 2004-04-18 21:38
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John Nixon
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last post was mine - forgot to login before I posted (sorry)

John Nixon
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Sun, 2004-04-18 21:35
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Thanks for reply. It is Carbon Steel (CS) pipe. 20" I.D. and it is for waste water with weak pH (due to all the effluent from various sources) My firm uses a proprietary ability to insert a prepreg composite material under 2-5 psi pneumatic pressure, and then we cure in place with a patented energy delivery source. So, we can cure in about 60 minutes what takes convential resin-catalyst technologies about 3 days..... The longer the pipe to be repaired, the greater our savings to the customer in terms of time.... so, while I knew there is no such thing as a "typical" turnaround, at least some sort of baseline example would help me in building a model which I could alter project by project....

John
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Sun, 2004-04-18 08:11
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Bernard Ertl
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Hi John,

"Typical turnaround schedules" is almost an oxymoron - especially with respect to piping repair/maintenance. That fluctuates wildly from unit to unit (and turnaround to turnaround within the same unit).

What type of pipe (CS / SS / Chrome) are you looking for? The cost benefits will be greater with the exotic metals versus carbon steel. Pipe replacement that requires stress relieving is much more expensive (in both time and cost) and has greater risk of impacting the schedule if a weld fails.

Bernard Ertl
InterPlan Systems - ATC Professional Shutdown / Turnaround Management System
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