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PC rate adjustment

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Sun, 2007-03-11 06:44
Samagata Chakravorty
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hi all,

can a Contractor request the Engineer to consider a variation under clause 51.1 d (FIDIC)due to change in the size of tiles which is a PC rate item in case of a lumpsum contract & re-measure the same as per cl 55 & 56.

thanks in advance

sam
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Thu, 2011-09-01 04:08
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Mike Testro
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Hi Grace

Welcome to Planning Planet.

Firstly it is not a good idea to wake up long dead threads - you should start a new query.

As far as I recall the SIA was a variant of the old JCT forms and the remeasurement - pricing rules were similar.

If the re measured work is similar to that measured then the contract rates are applied.

If the re measured work is different in some respects - ie slab formwork at a different height - then the rate should be adjusted commensurately.

If the re measure is completely different then a new rate has to be applied.

If by PC rate you mean something completely different to a BOQ rate then tell us what you mean.

Best regards

Mike Testro

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Wed, 2011-08-31 12:01
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Grace Leong
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Hi,

I have a question here.

Under measurement contract using SIA(Singapore institute of architects) contract, do we still require to do PC rate adjustment since it is a measurement contract?

If required, how should we go about it?

For your kind advise.

 

Thanks and regards,

Grace Leong

 

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Wed, 2007-07-11 07:13
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Bolisetti Jogiraju
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Hi Sam !
This is a definite variation,no doubt at all.
But,How far you will benefit from this instruction,that you have to look carefully.
If the latest requirement(i.e. 300x300mm in size)of tiles are non-standard,then you will have very strong argument to substantiate your rights.
As you mentioned,no other deviation instructed in this regard,so
be vigilent,some times fire back.

Hope,you got me.

cheers
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Tue, 2007-03-27 09:32
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Amr Fathy Ibrahim
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Dear Sam,

Of course this is a variation. You have been contracted to execute what is in the original contract documents( this means conditions, drawings, bills etc) a "Change" from the original documents means a Change Order" Variation Order". The fact that is a lumpsum contract does not change that. It only means that you get to do whatever in the documents regardless of the quantities stated in the bill.
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Mon, 2007-03-12 16:20
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Rashid Iqbal
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The first thing you asked is as to whether the contractor can request....

The contractor has the right to request or to submit any such thing...The Client or the Engineer accepts it or not is a different issue. This potential change order, if rejected, would become a ’cliam situation’.


At the moment, If you do not have the time to go into details, then go and just reserve your right for this instance by issuing a correspondence. It should clearly state that the contractor is reserving it’s right to claim additonal costs that he may have to incur directly or indirectly due this varied work.

Rashid


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Mon, 2007-03-12 07:04
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Samagata Chakravorty
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thanx Rodel for your views.

actually in this case the contract is a lump sum contract based on FIDIC.

there are items for ceramic tiling works under finishes with PC rates per m2 and also the size is mentioned e.g. 200 x 200 mm. but during the execution of the project as per employer’s requirement and engineer’s approval the original size is changed to different sizes e.g. 300 x 300mm etc but without any change in the total quantity of the BOQ as the area of tiling remains same and also without any change in the type.

my query is whether only the adjustment is done in the PC rate without changing the quantity as it is a lumpsum contract or the item is totally considered as a variation , omitting the original PC rate item and a new item is added as per the new rates and new quantities of each type.
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Mon, 2007-03-12 02:21
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Rodel Marasigan
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Sam,

Under FIDIC Variation and Adjustment can be vary to engineers instruction. It could be a re-measurement or could be variation.
1)     Do you have a S.I. to do the changes? Or S.I. to change of specifications?
•     if does then variation will be calculated as:
a)     Omission of original qty x original size of tiles
b)     Addition of new qty x new size of tiles on the new agreed rates (if not exist)

2)     It can also be covered on re-measurement based on approved new rates based on new size of tiles if rates do not exist.

The best way is to issue a notice of variation to claim or issue an RFI to validate the claim

Regards,
Rodel
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Mon, 2007-03-12 00:52
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Samagata Chakravorty
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hope to get some views

regards
sam
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