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An engineer does a complicated 15 -20 page schedule that they have worked on for a year as part of the design documents. Then the contractor wins the project and has 60 days to start from scratch to produce a better one - this makes no sense, it is just re-inventing the wheel. I realize there are some "means & methods & legal" issues but it is a massive waste of time when that same time coould be spent further progressing the existing schedule and making it better. Engineer's version of the construction schedule are generally better - based on the fact that they have more time. I am not talking about a simple 4 page "can of corn" project. Can do some legal rider that they cannot keep it the same, have to progress it, and that the engineers absolves itself from it once handed over - or something. This is almost as annoying as when engineers wont give contractors quantity breakdowns they have already done.
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Yes, true. But I am talking about time and the way projects work. Why do we have to do the time consuming manual work that has already been done? It is re-inventing the basic wheel instead of starting with the basic wheel in making it good. You have 30-60 days to produce a baseline while the engineer had a year. The contractor has enough time to put together an ok schedule. Why not start at OK and spend the same amount of time they would have to make it a great schedule. Can you make a great 100 Mil cost and resource schedule by yourself in 60 days? Maybe. Could you make a better one if you started with the basic schedule and had time to work out the details and work with the people involved yes. There is a big difference between a 100 Mil road schedule that is 6-7 pages and and 100 Mil. complex project that is like 20 pages for a Server Center or something.
Yes, true. But I am talking about time and the way projects work. Why do we have to do the time consuming manual work that has already been done? It is re-inventing the basic wheel instead of starting with the basic wheel in making it good. You have 30-60 days to produce a baseline while the engineer had a year. The contractor has enough time to put together an ok schedule. Why not start at OK and spend the same amount of time they would have to make it a great schedule. Can you make a great 100 Mil cost and resource schedule by yourself in 60 days? Maybe. Could you make a better one if you started with the basic schedule and had time to work out the details and work with the people involved yes. There is a big difference between a 100 Mil road schedule that is 6-7 pages and and 100 Mil. complex project that is like 20 pages for a Server Center or something.
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