Whilst Mike thought that Keith Pickavance waffled, having also attended I have to disagree.
The work the CIOB have produced will be published later his year as "A Guide to Good Practice in the Management of Time in Complex Projects". Its a very comprehensive piece of work, and is the first step toward getting planners and schedulers recognised qualifications.
The comments on its content from leading authorities such as Murray Woolf are very good, and as such when published I encourage you all to at least take the time to read it.
And the cause of problems shall be repeated and repeated - one day people shall take notice of them and act on them to prevent problems:
In 1939 Edward Rimmer wrote a paper called "The Conditions of Engineering Contracts", ICE Journal Vol 11, p3 (1939) - outlining the problems with construction projects and suggesting ideas for the way forward - partly from which the ICE Standard Form Contract 1st Edition was born in 1945.
If you can find a copy of the paper it’s worth a read - just to confirm that many of the problems encountered today were there in 1939 and haven’t changed much!!!!!!!!
Interesting contracts from a programming and planning angle, trying to ovecome some of the problems, are the new(ish) Irish Government public works contracts:
What is states is the obvious. That is good to know. It is a benchmark.
In the sea of information, they are stating the problems and what can be done about it. Its a good picture/guide for things to avoid and things that might happen.
Agree, experienced people might find it business as usual.
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Hi samer it is really worth going through it >
Regards
Shahul
Dear Ravi,
I think it is good to read. That is why I posted it. I am glad that you liked it.
With kind regards,
Samer
Thanks Samer for sharing tat wonderful article.
:-)
Dear All
Whilst Mike thought that Keith Pickavance waffled, having also attended I have to disagree.
The work the CIOB have produced will be published later his year as "A Guide to Good Practice in the Management of Time in Complex Projects". Its a very comprehensive piece of work, and is the first step toward getting planners and schedulers recognised qualifications.
The comments on its content from leading authorities such as Murray Woolf are very good, and as such when published I encourage you all to at least take the time to read it.
Regards
Toby
Thank you Andrew,
A lot of people will benefit from this information.
With kind regards,
Samer
Hello Andrew,
Thank you for the link.
Nice to see you round here as well :D
Regards,
Roland
And the cause of problems shall be repeated and repeated - one day people shall take notice of them and act on them to prevent problems:
In 1939 Edward Rimmer wrote a paper called "The Conditions of Engineering Contracts", ICE Journal Vol 11, p3 (1939) - outlining the problems with construction projects and suggesting ideas for the way forward - partly from which the ICE Standard Form Contract 1st Edition was born in 1945.
If you can find a copy of the paper it’s worth a read - just to confirm that many of the problems encountered today were there in 1939 and haven’t changed much!!!!!!!!
Interesting contracts from a programming and planning angle, trying to ovecome some of the problems, are the new(ish) Irish Government public works contracts:
http://www.constructionprocurement.gov.ie/P1Contracts.aspx
Download contract PW-CF4 and have a look at, (they are all similar):
Progress Reports Cl 4. 9 & 4.10
Time & Completion Cl 9
Notices Cl 10
Lets not forget one important note,
Most creatures on this planet seem to require repetition until a certain obvious idea really sticks in..
So yes it might not be that bad after all.
Plus champagne is not that bad, is it now? :)
Regards,
Roland
Dear Mike,
What is states is the obvious. That is good to know. It is a benchmark.
In the sea of information, they are stating the problems and what can be done about it. Its a good picture/guide for things to avoid and things that might happen.
Agree, experienced people might find it business as usual.
With kind regards,
Samer
Hi Samer
I attended the seminar where this paper was presented - the champagne and canapes were above average.
Otherwise I found nothing new and Keith Pickavance just waffled.
I recall that I finally binned the handouts last week.
Best regards
Mike Testro.
Thank you Samer!!
Much appreciated.
Regards,
Roland