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Hi



All are created equal but some end up more equal than others



Best regards



Mike Testro

Anoon,



your thought is wrong

"This will make a difference only when they have to select amongst equal candidates".



i thought all men are created equal?

Dear Rosie,



I was in a discussion today with an expert in this field and he stated that a person should take a "professional" degree after about 7 years of practice.



This will make a difference only when they have to select amongst equal candidates.



Good luck,



Samer

Hi Rosie



I have read your thread with interest. I earn my very good living as a forensic delay analyst and the most useful qualification I earned was GCE carpentry - 50 odd years ago.



If anyone asks I tell them I am an "unqualified success".



Apply for the Planning Engineers Organisation - when your thesis is accepted you will have the letters MPEO to your name - this is recognised more and more around the world.



I should add that the second most useful qualification I have is MPEO.



Best regards



Mike Testro

Rosie

I fully suport Carmen’s idea. PMP, Prince2 or others would be a helpful certificate.

Now you have some years of experience. Did you ever see an electrician plan a piping, a mechanical engineer plan instrumentation? As a planner you must have a broad area of technical understanding and feeling, must have excellent communication and presentation skills, be able to structurize tasks, be able to read a tender or a contract, have some understanding on cost controls. Most are NOT basics of engineering.

Don’t be afraid. Don’t be discouraged by ignorants! Have some self confidence, because YOU have experience.

Please don’t misunderstand me. For planning and scheduling more skills are required in addition to engineering. Engineers must learn different things.

Regards

Dieter

R F ,



You do not have to gravitate, please check following association:



Planning Engineers Organization (UK)

American Institute of certified planners

PMI - project management institute



Search in this forum under “Project services career issues” some threads about the theme HOW to get a certificate.



Cheers,

R F,



I hope that my words do not offend you. That was not the intention.



I have a technical degree, years of experience based on Home office and site. And I would like to have a certificate coming from any respectable institution.



I was wondering WHY I do not find process designers without technical degree and just years of experience.



Cheers,

Rosie,



It depends of the Company you are looking for.



I can classify 4 key players in the business of projects:

Client

EPC contractor (including CM construction management)

Design contractor (ONLY)

Construction Contractor (ONLY)



Within these 3 key players, you can consider:

Size and business



For instance, regarding size you can find:

Small, medium or big projects.



Regarding business, you can find :

Oil& Gas, chemical , mining, power and so ON.



Any Key player, executing big or medium projects in the Oil& Gas Business is requesting a technical degree. Just experience is no longer valid. According to my experience and in America (South).



Wait for others planners to post comments regarding Europe or UK.



Cheers,

Hi Rosie

This will depend on the company. There are many companies where any activity for hiring is restricted to engineers - others are not able to structure a project and to create a plan, they believe. It depends on the power of the user department against HR as well - strong HR no or little chance, strong involvement of planning team, big chances for you. For contractual work it should be easier for you.

It’s just my private opinion.

Good luck!

Dieter