after resources allocation is OK... set to Fixed Work.
reason: with Fixed Work... any change to duration will recalc the units required to achieve the Total Work prev calc. and vice-versa chg to units required will recalc duration to achieve the Total Work prev calc.
as for alvin,
when u assign the resource what was the total work? 40hrs?
if the total hrs as ur expect is supposed to be 10hrs, make sure u do not assign 100% (1 person)
because duration = 5 @ 8hrs per day
assigning 1 person fulltime = 5 x 8 = 40hrs Total Work
so if u estimate Total Work = 10hrs
it means u need only 25% of the input (= 0.25 unit of 25%) depend on ur setting for resource unit
i.e u assign 0.25 Designer or 25% Designer
that would give u Total Work 10hrs and later when u progress the work, the actual work should be 10hrs
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Submitted by Rodel Marasigan on Tue, 2007-03-13 06:37
If you input a resource onto a FIXED DURATION task, it will automatically assume that the resource is working at 100% for the duration of that activity. Therefore, if you then amend the % Complete to show 100%, it will convert the scheduled hours to actual hours. In order to avoid this, you need to split-screen (show RESOURCE WORK form at the bottom of the screen), input the resouce name and then input the scheduled hours. Only then should you click "OK". When you amend the task to 100% complete, it will convert your 10 scheduled hours to 10 actual hours, appropriately spread across the duration.
If you try doing it any other way round, the gantt bar will probably show lots of little dots.
Its always a pain in the bum, but if you input the data in the correct sequence, you will get the correct results.
HTH
James.
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Submitted by Alexandre Faul… on Thu, 2007-03-08 13:12
On a FIXEd WORK task, the "Effort Driven" checkbox cannot be de-activated.
NOTE OF CAUTION: The intepretation and use of the "FIXED XXX" can be cause for confusion, especially when trying to change resource, duration, units or when re-scheduling uncompleted work. The results are never quite what you expect.
James
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Submitted by Alexandre Faul… on Wed, 2007-03-07 13:00
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19 yearsRE: Fixed Duration V’s Fixed Work V’s Fixed Units
more experience with msp...
what i normally do...
during initial planning... set to Fixed Duration.
after schedule is OK. assign resources.
after resources allocation is OK... set to Fixed Work.
reason: with Fixed Work... any change to duration will recalc the units required to achieve the Total Work prev calc. and vice-versa chg to units required will recalc duration to achieve the Total Work prev calc.
as for alvin,
when u assign the resource what was the total work? 40hrs?
if the total hrs as ur expect is supposed to be 10hrs, make sure u do not assign 100% (1 person)
because duration = 5 @ 8hrs per day
assigning 1 person fulltime = 5 x 8 = 40hrs Total Work
so if u estimate Total Work = 10hrs
it means u need only 25% of the input (= 0.25 unit of 25%) depend on ur setting for resource unit
i.e u assign 0.25 Designer or 25% Designer
that would give u Total Work 10hrs and later when u progress the work, the actual work should be 10hrs
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19 yearsRE: Fixed Duration V’s Fixed Work V’s Fixed Units
Hi all,
Another way is to display your custom form. Select View-> Toolbars-> Custom Form
Click Cost Tracking or Work Tracking Icon
If used Cost Tracking change Work to correct hrs, % work complete to 100% and 0% on duration % complete and click OK.
If used Work Tracking change Total to correct hrs, % complete to 100 and 0% on duration % complete and click OK.
Note: Make sure that duration % complete = 0% otherwise MSP automatically calculate the new hrs/ original hrs as duration % complete.
It’s better to use this custom form especially if you have multiple resources on one task to adjust.
Regards,
Rodel
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19 years 5 monthsRE: Fixed Duration V’s Fixed Work V’s Fixed Units
Alwin,
If you input a resource onto a FIXED DURATION task, it will automatically assume that the resource is working at 100% for the duration of that activity. Therefore, if you then amend the % Complete to show 100%, it will convert the scheduled hours to actual hours. In order to avoid this, you need to split-screen (show RESOURCE WORK form at the bottom of the screen), input the resouce name and then input the scheduled hours. Only then should you click "OK". When you amend the task to 100% complete, it will convert your 10 scheduled hours to 10 actual hours, appropriately spread across the duration.
If you try doing it any other way round, the gantt bar will probably show lots of little dots.
Its always a pain in the bum, but if you input the data in the correct sequence, you will get the correct results.
HTH
James.
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22 years 9 monthsRE: Fixed Duration V’s Fixed Work V’s Fixed Units
Alwin,
its not an easy or quick way of doing it, but you could have a try:
display Task Usage (or Resource Usage),
display Actual Work
key in the actual amount of work by day or week (depending the Time Scale zoom)
key in the value 100% for the task % complete
delete the additional amount of work MSP insists to enter after the task finish date
it would take a macro to automatize this process
Alexandre
I hope somebody will have a better idea, I am interested in
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22 years 9 monthsRE: Fixed Duration V’s Fixed Work V’s Fixed Units
I meant: the "Effort Driven" checkbox is dimmed, and automatically set to "Yes", I meant you cannot activate / de-activate it
James is right, undrestanding Task Type in MS Project is worth the price of a good training session with a good instructor.
Alexandre
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19 years 5 monthsRE: Fixed Duration V’s Fixed Work V’s Fixed Units
Correction to Alexandres post.
On a FIXEd WORK task, the "Effort Driven" checkbox cannot be de-activated.
NOTE OF CAUTION: The intepretation and use of the "FIXED XXX" can be cause for confusion, especially when trying to change resource, duration, units or when re-scheduling uncompleted work. The results are never quite what you expect.
James
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22 years 9 monthsRE: Fixed Duration V’s Fixed Work V’s Fixed Units
Alistair,
1. Duration fixed regardless of amout of hours and resourece numbers: set the task type as "Fixed Duration" and uncheck the "Effort driven" box
2. Hours fixed regardless of duration and manpower: set the task type as "Fixed Work"; "Effort driven" will automatically be desactivated.
Any decent book or training material on MS Project (any version since MSP 98) explains that set-up.
All the best,
Alexandre