hi, I'm new to Primavera so still finding my around the software.
I've got a problem at the moment, the plan I'm working on is required to be seen by a lot of people, all with the same access rights, and for some reason somebody has added a few activities within the plan and made completely random links pushing my project finish date way out. whether malicious or not is neither here nor there.
I'm wondering if there is a way to find out if there has been any new activities added, maybe a filter i can run every morning?
any help would be appreciated, thanks
Hi Ashley
You don't need claim digger.
The quickest way to interrogate any changes in the programme is on a spreadsheet.
I assume that you have a copy of the original unchanged programme.
You can use CTRL A to select all the 4000 tasks to copy and paste onto an excell speadsheet.
Do the same with the adulterated one.
Sorting on the Act ID code you will be able to isolate the added tasks.
On the barchart add columns in the table for successors and predecessors then copy and paste as before.
Sort on the Act ID on both charts so that they are lined up then in a single column put the formula Cell A3=Cell K3 (or whatever is the predecessor/successor columns) you will get 1 if they are identical and 0 if they are not.
This will give you an immediate location of where the tampering has occurred which can then be rectified.
Best regards
Mike Testro
Hi Ashley
I agree with Raymond and Raphael that security profiles shall to set ensure that only authorised persons can make changes to the logic and to inserting new activities.
Please note that in the standard reports, included in the P6 Software, this item is covered with a special developed report.I cannot quote the name of the report because mine is translated in Dutch. New report can be created with the report wizard. Use activities as the first criteria and "modified by" in the group and sort criteria. Run the report and this shows the results.
Regards
Johannnes
Ashley,
I suggest to make use of the Security Profile for every user.
Regards,
Meanwhile consider having a second database either on the network set up exclusively for your use or on your own computer.
http://ronwinterconsulting.com/P6_Databases_Level_1.pdf
I am not a P6 user but others might help.
Good luck,
Rafael
its happened again today, someone has been in the plan and added ridiculous links between activities. im working on a plan with 4000 tasks and as i havent used digger before im just going through every task checking the relationships are the ones i put in.
the problem with where im working at the moment is there are around 400+ people in the database all with rights to alter any plans, theres only around 20 plans being worked on though. a chain of command should definiately be set up. i would have thought giving everybody there own reflection each day would be a good idea instead of allowing sabotage.
thanks for the tip about calendars, ill keep my eye on them.
once this plan is done with im going to have a play around with digger so i can use that in the future
cheers
I agree with Raymund, no matter if you can detect all changes there shall be a single person per job doing changes in logic. Perhaps entering actual data for updates can be extended to other users, might be convenient when using integrated time cards.
Initially, during the development stage these rules might be relaxed but at some point a single person shall be allowed to make changes in logic. So the need for complex access rules will always exist, but usually intended for a limited period.
Interested persons shall be allowed to copy and perform what-if using their own version but not to make changes without going through the responsible person, all must follow the chain of command, otherwise it will be chaos.
The real solution is to assign only 1 poweruser among all users. Security Profile shall be set to "No changes allowed" for other users.
Asking the wolf to take care of the sheep do not seems like a good idea.
Then the easiest way to deceive a P6 claim might be by fooling with the calendars. Just make sure you have as many calendars as you can so you can fool the schedule while making it difficult for others to notice.
"all's fair in love and war"
I think that altered calendars will be untraceable but effect is noticeable. The person who made the changes must sing.
I always considered Digger a great tool but I believe there are two methods to make file comparisons, one is using Digger and the other one is comparing fields on the tables, some software provide a difference field. Both methods complement each other.
I am not sure but as far as I recall digger would not disclose everything, in such case comparing fields on the tables might be a viable alternative.
For example someone might change the vacations days, but it was not available in old P3 digger. How do you check within P6 for changes in vacations?
Best Regards,
Rafael
Rafael,
Those changes you mentioned can be determined using the Claim Digger.
And what about activity deletions? About added links, deleted links, changed lags ...?
Some software can display activities in one version missing in other version. Very convenient but not necessarily enough in your case. There are several methods to expose the changes in any parameter such as activity durations, lags, links etc. One might be if your software have an audit trail for all parameters, another is to keep a copy of your original file and make file comparisons.
You are Most Welcome....
brilliant, sorted it
thanks for that
Hi,
On the Activity Window... Show the Columns ... "Added By" and "Added Date"...
Regards,