Best Practise to Measure Progress???

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xadlim B. 👤 Member for 14 years 4 months

 

Hi to all experts,

I have a programme which fully loaded with all resources and cost…

Question;

What is the best practise to measure the actual progress against the planned progress of the project? As far as I know the planned progress in P6 is presented by Schedule % Complete how about the actual progress?

How does EVM affect the accurate percent complete of the Project??? Lastly, what is the best duration type and % complete type to be used??? 

Any help is very much appreciated...

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xadlim B. 👤 Member for 14 years 4 months

 

Mr Sudarshan,

What does you mean by Best way to monitoring is % Completion type??? Can explain it further please...

 

Regards,

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sudarshan singh 👤 Member for 15 years

Hi Jsame,

Q)How does EVM affect the accurate percent complete of the Project??? Lastly, what is the best duration type and % complete type to be used??? 

A) Best way to monitoring is % Completion type,if you put progress according to site progres  you will get correct S-curve and EVM also shows correct.

 

If you have any queries regarding that please write me back.

 

Sudarshan

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sudarshan singh 👤 Member for 15 years

Hi Jsame,

Q)How does EVM affect the accurate percent complete of the Project??? Lastly, what is the best duration type and % complete type to be used??? 

A) Best way to monitoring is % Completion type,if you put progress according to site progres  you will get correct S-curve and EVM also shows correct.

 

If you have any queries regarding that please write me back.

 

Sudarshan

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xadlim B. 👤 Member for 14 years 4 months

 

Thank You Mr Raymund, 

I got your point now, if we will use performance % complete = duration % complete, that is the reason why other activities instead of 1 day duration will give 2 days, 5 days it shows 6 days and so on.... so the best is to update RD manually.

 

Once again thank you....

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Raymund de Laza 👤 Member for 16 years 6 months

I got your point Jsame. You can do that but I don't advise you to apply it.

I advise you to update the remaining duration manually as that the Performance % will not exactly reflects the actual duration that will occur while you input the Performace % value in the Duration %.

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xadlim B. 👤 Member for 14 years 4 months

 

 

If we used physical % complete as our percent complete type which is equals also to performance % complete, after we update the physical % of the activity the remaining duration will not change, so in this case we will use global change, parameter, performance % complete = duration % complete in order to update the duration % complete to give us float of the Project if we are ahead or delayed???

Or Duration % percent complete to be updated by putting the Remaining Duration field???

In addition, I found another problem after I run the programme some activity duration which is 1 day but showing 2 days, ex. ES 03 July 12 13:48 EF 04 July 12 13:48 (I cant attached the file here) if you don’t mind I will send to your email.

Thank You in advance.

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Raymund de Laza 👤 Member for 16 years 6 months

Jsame,

Sorry as I can't capture what exactly you mean....

Duration % complete is % complete based from the activity duration.

Physical % complete is % complete based from either quantities (units) or cost or physical status based from your calculation as seen by your naked eye.

Total float is dependent on the duration and sequences of activities.

Hope this will help.

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xadlim B. 👤 Member for 14 years 4 months

 

Mr Raymund,

We know that if we used Physical % complete as our percent complete type, it has nothing to do with the Duration and Units, so in this reason if we will use Physical % complete, we will run global change performance % complete = duration % complete in order to update the total float of the Project???

 

Again thanx a lot!!!

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Raymund de Laza 👤 Member for 16 years 6 months

Jsame,

If you set your P6 as I earlier stated, then Physical % = Performance % as well as in the Highest Level.

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xadlim B. 👤 Member for 14 years 4 months

 

Mr Raymund,

Correct me if I'm wrong, I agree with you that actual progress can be automatically calculated, so in this case Actual Progress which is based on Physical % Complete is equal to the summary of Performance % Complete in the highest level???

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Raymund de Laza 👤 Member for 16 years 6 months

Jsame,

Actual % Complete will be automatically calculated if it is sets to, otherwise can be generated from units or cost, depends on the available data.

Roll up percent complete will be available if the program is resource loaded. Physical % = Performance %.

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xadlim B. 👤 Member for 14 years 4 months

 

Mr Raymond,

How to generate the Actual Percent complete is it based on Units or Cost or we can generate both???

And how to show this Actual Percentage in the highest level is it the Performance Percent complete since Physical Percent complete will never roll up at the highest level.

 

Thank you in advance…

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Raymund de Laza 👤 Member for 16 years 6 months

Jsame,

The easy way to input your progress data in a resource loaded program?

Setup your P6 as follows:

1. On the Projects window.. calculation tab check Activity percent complete based on activity steps.
2. Duration Type = Fixed duration & Units
3. % complete Type = Physical
4. Add activity steps for each activity and input Step Weight as Quantity.
    Example: Activty Name = Marble Flooring
                 Activity Steps will be Room # 102, 104, 106 or Ground Floor, First Floor...etc...
                 Input quantity of each rooms or Floor Level as steps weight.

 

From the above, you can progress your program in activity level as well as project level.

 

Hope this will help.

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xadlim B. 👤 Member for 14 years 4 months

Mr Daniel Thank You for your reply…

 

Further clarification, you mentioned that Actual Progress should be based on Physical % or Quantities Completed??? AS far as I know that Physical % complete will not give us a total summary at the highest level, so is there any column that we can generate the total actual progress which is base on Physical % Complete???

In addition, why is it the % complete type should be based on duration if our Actual Progress will be measured on Physical %? 

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Daniel Limson 👤 Member for 24 years 7 months

Hi Jsame,

Actual progress should be based on physical % complete or quantities completed against total estimate. The weight value for each type of commodity or activities can be based on manhours / mandays and/or cost, whichever you prefer or you can use both by allocating weigthings on your WBS. 

I have had many projects where i have used both (Cost (primary weighting) and Manhours (secondary weighting)), especially if the project delivery is EPC type or Turnkey Project. I normally use cost to allocate the primary weightings, and use manhours or mandays as secondary weighting especially  in the construction portion of the project. So under construction I normally allocate labour & Plant cost plus 70% of the material cost.  Procurement weightings should only be around 30% of the Materials Cost and 70% should be allocated to Construction .   Normally materials will weigh more than 50% of the total project value, however you can only claim around 30% of material cost (weight Value) during procurement to delivery of materials and 70% of the material cost weight value should be under construction when physically installed or constructed. so there you have it.

Your other questions, I used "fixed duration and units" and % complete type based on 'Duration'

 

Best regards,

Daniel

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