"he, refuses to grant us an authorization to claim directly the owner to pay us our due invoice deducting from his dues with the owner"
With reference to your above note, I dont think the GC has any right to garnt "authorization" for your running invoices.
What he might meant that you can not raise invoices directly to the Employer. But, he cannot deny your right to raise invoices to him. So, you should keep on raising invoices as per your payment cycles. This will be suplemntary evidence that may proved quite substantial when you go to ADR or DAB.
Check if you have any clause that give you entitlement to terminate the contract on non-payment.
Best of luck.
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Submitted by Geoffrey Boulton on Sat, 2010-04-24 12:01
1). Check your contract conditions as regards to “suspension of work”. I am not altogether sure but if your Contract does not have a clause for suspension you will continue until such time as works are resumed.
Legal advice must be sought before you cease work though. Depending on which country this may in itself be illegal.
2) Keep records of all the dates of the delay and report these each week and month report.
3). Give formal notice of the delays every week month with cumulative running total i.e. written letters.
4). Along with the notice provide statement of cumulative costs – relating to the delay only.
If you have already made attempts to resolve the issue with your client and have not achieved anything satisfactory it would be time to take legal advice on your options going forward. You have a duty of care and control for your portion of the work until you have completed and you do not want this responsibility if you are not getting paid.
Geoff
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Submitted by Samer Zawaydeh on Thu, 2010-04-22 03:33
If you are working under FIDIC, it has a clear clause called "Evidence of Payment". That means that the GC must show evidence that they paid all his committments reported and invoiced in the previous bill before the new bill is approved for payment.
You can ask the Owner for a meeting officially, and explain to them your situation. During that meeting, you can ask the Owner about this particular clause, and inform them that you want to submit a letter with the project financial cash flow.
You will need to get some good legal advice as well. I would suggest that you check for experts in this matter. You can use the DAB under FIDIC, then you can get a resolution within a year. This you can take to court, if the problem persists. Your management needs to decide if the disputed amount is worth the help of other professionals outside your organization. Once the Technical and Construction parts are over, it is now finance, management and legal.
With kind regards,
Samer
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Submitted by Mohammed Owais on Wed, 2010-04-21 17:03
Samer: we tried to settle the dispute amicably but unfortunately we failed.
GC refuses to pay us the due running bill (because our payments term is back to back) and with same time he, refuses to grant us an authorization to claim directly the owner to pay us our due invoice deducting from his dues with the owner
So how long we should to wait the GC to solve his problem with the owner and get be paid his due invoice then pay us and resume the work? And what is the action we should to take after all this long suspension?
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Submitted by Samer Zawaydeh on Mon, 2010-04-19 16:57
You need to know exactly what are the COC that you signed. When the dust settles down, the only thing that will work is documentation.
So make sure that you are following your COC. And start reading the UAE CIVIL LAW, just in case you need it. You also have the DAB in UAE, so give them a call and check what they can offer.
The size of the problem depends on the size of the project, and the balance sheet. So the decision to pursue the dispute resolution methods depends on how much money you are expecting to get back from the contract.
Make sure that you have legal coverage as well. If the case goes to courts (by the request of any party), you are a part of it.
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18 years 5 monthsRE: Work Suspension
"he, refuses to grant us an authorization to claim directly the owner to pay us our due invoice deducting from his dues with the owner"
With reference to your above note, I dont think the GC has any right to garnt "authorization" for your running invoices.
What he might meant that you can not raise invoices directly to the Employer. But, he cannot deny your right to raise invoices to him. So, you should keep on raising invoices as per your payment cycles. This will be suplemntary evidence that may proved quite substantial when you go to ADR or DAB.
Check if you have any clause that give you entitlement to terminate the contract on non-payment.
Best of luck.
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21 years 5 monthsRE: Work Suspension
Hi Mohammed.
Follow Mike’s advice it is logical and sound
1). Check your contract conditions as regards to “suspension of work”. I am not altogether sure but if your Contract does not have a clause for suspension you will continue until such time as works are resumed.
Legal advice must be sought before you cease work though. Depending on which country this may in itself be illegal.
2) Keep records of all the dates of the delay and report these each week and month report.
3). Give formal notice of the delays every week month with cumulative running total i.e. written letters.
4). Along with the notice provide statement of cumulative costs – relating to the delay only.
If you have already made attempts to resolve the issue with your client and have not achieved anything satisfactory it would be time to take legal advice on your options going forward. You have a duty of care and control for your portion of the work until you have completed and you do not want this responsibility if you are not getting paid.
Geoff
Member for
17 years 3 monthsRE: Work Suspension
Dear Mohammed,
If you are working under FIDIC, it has a clear clause called "Evidence of Payment". That means that the GC must show evidence that they paid all his committments reported and invoiced in the previous bill before the new bill is approved for payment.
You can ask the Owner for a meeting officially, and explain to them your situation. During that meeting, you can ask the Owner about this particular clause, and inform them that you want to submit a letter with the project financial cash flow.
You will need to get some good legal advice as well. I would suggest that you check for experts in this matter. You can use the DAB under FIDIC, then you can get a resolution within a year. This you can take to court, if the problem persists. Your management needs to decide if the disputed amount is worth the help of other professionals outside your organization. Once the Technical and Construction parts are over, it is now finance, management and legal.
With kind regards,
Samer
Member for
20 years 7 monthsRE: Work Suspension
Thank you all for your advices
Samer: we tried to settle the dispute amicably but unfortunately we failed.
GC refuses to pay us the due running bill (because our payments term is back to back) and with same time he, refuses to grant us an authorization to claim directly the owner to pay us our due invoice deducting from his dues with the owner
So how long we should to wait the GC to solve his problem with the owner and get be paid his due invoice then pay us and resume the work? And what is the action we should to take after all this long suspension?
Member for
17 years 3 monthsRE: Work Suspension
Dear Mohammad,
Follow Mikes advice.
You need to know exactly what are the COC that you signed. When the dust settles down, the only thing that will work is documentation.
So make sure that you are following your COC. And start reading the UAE CIVIL LAW, just in case you need it. You also have the DAB in UAE, so give them a call and check what they can offer.
The size of the problem depends on the size of the project, and the balance sheet. So the decision to pursue the dispute resolution methods depends on how much money you are expecting to get back from the contract.
Make sure that you have legal coverage as well. If the case goes to courts (by the request of any party), you are a part of it.
With kind regards,
Samer
Member for
19 years 10 monthsRE: Work Suspension
Hi Mohammed.
Check your contract conditions as to suspension of work.
Do not suspend work until you have been given expert legal advice as to the potential consequences.
As far as your programme is concerned put all the stoppage days on a calendar - as non work days - and give notice of delay every reporting period.
Keep a record of all your costs regarding loss and expence and report it every week.
Make sure your delay notices are in place.
Good luck
Mike Testro