CBS, WBS Integration

Dear Fellow planners,

Ive read the forum about WBS/CBS/OBS, i'm now currently doing waterpark project and i got into WBS for this project.

I would appreaciated if anyone has sample WBS for my references. my email is [email protected]

We can share knowledge if anything . Thanks

Regs,

Matt

Hai Mr. Luca Basile Can u send the slides for me also if u don’t mind.

my E-mail Id: [email protected]

Cheers

Bala

Dear

Could u send the slides in "[email protected]", please...

Bye

Dear ALassam,

Your query is very important in the PM terminology.

In the our countries accounting DEPT is out of PM systems.

We must establish a system for integration between WBS & CBS by localised system.

I want help you for create this system. please contact me with email address [email protected]



B/R

Rashidi

David,

you don’t need to use WBS codes to create WBS in Spider Project though this package creates WBS codes for any structure if necessary. We always use multiple WBS structures to be able to analyze projects from the different points of view and to get necessary reports.

Usual structures: results, processes, responsibilities, cost accounts, contracts, geography, organizational, etc. Just switch to another (new) WBS, create phases, choose necessary activies, cut them and paste into corresponding phase. Nothing will change in other structures. And you can switch from one WBS to another by the mouse click in the menu Project/WBS.

This feature is very useful.

Vladimir

Lori



We have a similar problem on our project as well - in the commercial sector. The WBS dictated by the client and used in the schedule to track effort costs through detail design RESULT CBS !



How are you proposing to handle the problem of highlighting the potential pitfalls?



Vladimir - What breakdown do you use for your different WBS codes? I know a few who have sucessfully used this approach in the past for offshore coding issues

Lori,

why having several breakdowns in one project is considered as a problem. We always use several WBS - result WBS, process WBS, resposibility WBS, and others if necessary. It is a common practice.

Basil,

I am also interested in an illustration or description of how to integrate the various breakdowns within a project. My client is having a difficult time accepting that their proposed "WBS" is actually a CBS and that, from a schedule management perspective, we will need to have two realted, yet different breakdowns. (This is a major US govt agency and I am surprised at their reaction)



lori pierce

[email protected]

For Mr. Dragos Daescu

Thanks a Lot for this web site but i know this site and it is very useful but do not have what i need exactly.

Sincerely Your

Dipl.Eng- ALassam Ghanem

For Mr. Emre Bayrak

This is an Artical Speaks about the Integration about CBS and WBS and OBS.

[William J. Rasdorf and Osama Y. abudayyeh, (1991) "Cost- and Schedule-Control Integration: Issues and Needs" ASCE, 117(3), 486-502].

i do not have an electronic copy, so you can find it in the Magazine of construction and engineering and management.

Sincerely Your

Dipl.Eng- ALassam Ghanem

Give a look at APEX project.

Is given with P3, in the same CD.

Is a pretty good example of integration Wbs/Cbs and Obs.

Hi

I also need some help on the issue you discussed.Can you also send me these slides or can you give any referance about ’3D system’ you told ?

Thanks

Emre

[email protected]

You are welcome.

This one I found in the net, I just modify a little and put the animation to better use for trainning.I have done a lot of others, on different topics. At the moment I have just sent You the other two.



Luca

I sent You an email with a slide.

I try to send other 2 slides, but You email box was full.

When You will free it,let me know and I will send the other two.

send me Your email and I will forward some materials.



Luca

An integrated WBS/CBS/OBS is one of the requirement also to establish an EV management.

The intersection of this will give You the accounts.

Looking at them You can find out where the project is going bad or well, identify the reason and address all this to the right person.

The intersection of the three is giving a 3D model.

Or if taken two by two a matrix system.

I try to be as much as possible short as You can find a lot of good references around the net as well as good books on the issue. Just run a search on gogle.

Or send me Your email address and I can address You to some material more dedicate.