I decide to convert all baselines projects into P3e and insert progress in P3e in accordance with contractors. So i am not having to do monthly conversions.
Any development on this? I am continuing with the problems. But this time the problem is from client. They have P3 and Our company is V5. Intenally I need to work in V5 and to client in P3. The modifications they do in P3 soft copy to be imported to my V5. Ohhhh....
Thanks, Amar
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Submitted by Marcio Sampaio on Wed, 2005-11-16 07:37
My company is trying, but its too dificult. By the contract, they can use MS Project and Contractors are pleading U$ 200.000,00 to do an additive to change to P3e or P3. A number impossible to understand.
Regards.
Marcio Eduardo.
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Submitted by Dinesh Kumar D… on Mon, 2005-11-14 23:27
Try to pursue them to use P3.You will face lot of problems with MS project.Updated MS project programme also produces very strange results.MS project is very good to generate quick schedules but once you start updating them, it will be a disaster.
My advice is that you try to pursue them to use P3 atleast.
Regards
Dinesh
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Submitted by Marcio Sampaio on Mon, 2005-11-14 07:35
The biggest problem is that ill have to do these converts every month. And contractors definitively are going to use MS Project. Like i said, they can use any software they want.
So, ill have problems.
Regards.
Marcio Eduardo.
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Submitted by Dinesh Kumar D… on Sun, 2005-11-13 06:38
Normally, there should not be any problem if you bring projects from P3 to P3e.You will get problems in the begining but once you get used that it is easier.Try with small projects first and understand what is happening during the import.Once the programmes are in P3e you can use SDK to trasfer the links.
I faced many problems using MS project and I suggest that you ask your contractors to use atleast P3 not MS Project if you want to reduce the headache.
Regards
Dinesh
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Submitted by Marcio Sampaio on Wed, 2005-11-09 09:58
The problem is that im going to have to do monthly updates from P3 to P3e.
And this shcedule has links with others projects. So im going to update, run schedule and do the P3e to P3 convert to return the results to my contractor (every month).
The truth is that i have 5 contractors: 1 works with P3e; 2 works with P3 and 2 works with MS Project (all with interface links). Im going to do the same thing for all projects.
This is very good topic to be discussed. As such, as primavera claim, (while selling !)there should not be any data errors while importing and exporting.
However, the pain and headache for while import and export come free!
You and your contractor have to have similar calendar, Similar Activity codes, WBS etc. Otherwise to set the code values right is an extra burdon. Ofcourse, this is okay, if you are exporting or importing for one time. But if this is going to be on weekly or monthly basis, it is difficult.
Unfortunately, I am going to have same situation as you have, Data transfer between site, Contractor, Client etc all using different softwares. Oh.!! Miles to go before I sleep "EVERYDAY"...
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Hi Amar Aghana;
I decide to convert all baselines projects into P3e and insert progress in P3e in accordance with contractors. So i am not having to do monthly conversions.
Kind regards,
Marcio Eduardo.
Rio de Janeiro - Brazil.
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20 years 2 monthsRE: P3e to P3 convert.
Marcio,
Any development on this? I am continuing with the problems. But this time the problem is from client. They have P3 and Our company is V5. Intenally I need to work in V5 and to client in P3. The modifications they do in P3 soft copy to be imported to my V5. Ohhhh....
Thanks, Amar
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20 yearsRE: P3e to P3 convert.
Hi Dinesh,
Thats it. I have to stop trying to find a solution and start to work - and work hard!
Thanks.
Marcio Eduardo.
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23 years 8 monthsRE: P3e to P3 convert.
Then you have no choice at this moment, you have to face the trouble.
Regards
Dinesh
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20 yearsRE: P3e to P3 convert.
Dinesh,
My company is trying, but its too dificult. By the contract, they can use MS Project and Contractors are pleading U$ 200.000,00 to do an additive to change to P3e or P3. A number impossible to understand.
Regards.
Marcio Eduardo.
Member for
23 years 8 monthsRE: P3e to P3 convert.
Hi Marcio Eduardo,
Try to pursue them to use P3.You will face lot of problems with MS project.Updated MS project programme also produces very strange results.MS project is very good to generate quick schedules but once you start updating them, it will be a disaster.
My advice is that you try to pursue them to use P3 atleast.
Regards
Dinesh
Member for
20 yearsRE: P3e to P3 convert.
Dinesh,
The biggest problem is that ill have to do these converts every month. And contractors definitively are going to use MS Project. Like i said, they can use any software they want.
So, ill have problems.
Regards.
Marcio Eduardo.
Member for
23 years 8 monthsRE: P3e to P3 convert.
Hi Marcio Sampaio ,
Normally, there should not be any problem if you bring projects from P3 to P3e.You will get problems in the begining but once you get used that it is easier.Try with small projects first and understand what is happening during the import.Once the programmes are in P3e you can use SDK to trasfer the links.
I faced many problems using MS project and I suggest that you ask your contractors to use atleast P3 not MS Project if you want to reduce the headache.
Regards
Dinesh
Member for
20 yearsRE: P3e to P3 convert.
Can not use Primavera Contractor. It supports maximum 750 activities. Im working with projects with 6.000 activities each one.
And, by the contract, contractors can use any software they want.
Regards.
Marcio Eduardo
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20 years 3 monthsRE: P3e to P3 convert.
Im afraid you will...
Not sure if this will be entirely practicable, depends on the Programme sizes... have you tried conduiting everything through P3eContractor?
It purports to be nicely compatible with everything, and seems to work ok in this role for us.
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20 yearsRE: P3e to P3 convert.
Thanks Amar,
The problem is that im going to have to do monthly updates from P3 to P3e.
And this shcedule has links with others projects. So im going to update, run schedule and do the P3e to P3 convert to return the results to my contractor (every month).
The truth is that i have 5 contractors: 1 works with P3e; 2 works with P3 and 2 works with MS Project (all with interface links). Im going to do the same thing for all projects.
Think ill have big difficulty
Regards.
Marcio Eduardo
Member for
20 years 2 monthsRE: P3e to P3 convert.
Marcio,
This is very good topic to be discussed. As such, as primavera claim, (while selling !)there should not be any data errors while importing and exporting.
However, the pain and headache for while import and export come free!
You and your contractor have to have similar calendar, Similar Activity codes, WBS etc. Otherwise to set the code values right is an extra burdon. Ofcourse, this is okay, if you are exporting or importing for one time. But if this is going to be on weekly or monthly basis, it is difficult.
Unfortunately, I am going to have same situation as you have, Data transfer between site, Contractor, Client etc all using different softwares. Oh.!! Miles to go before I sleep "EVERYDAY"...
Cheers, Amar.