On CBS vs WBS

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Milind Pandhare 👤 Member for 20 years 9 months

-----WORK BREAKDOWN STRUCTURE-----



Structure: xxx.xx.xx.xx.xx.xx.xx.xx



WBS Code Title



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B55 B + G + 7 + H C R E S I ( B - 5 5 )

BO1 RESI. BLDG.PROJECT

BO1.1 KEY MILESTONE

BO1.2 Submittals & Approvel

BO1.2 .1 Subcontractor

BO1.2 .2 Shopdrawing

BO1.2 .3 Nominated supplier / Subcontractor

BO1.2 .4 Provisional Sum Finilise By Client

BO1.4 CONSTRUCTION

BO1.4 .1 Mobilisation

BO1.4 .2 Sub Structure

BO1.4 .2 .1 Shoring Piling

BO1.4 .2 .2 Excavation

BO1.4 .2 .3 Dewatering

BO1.4 .2 .4 Raft Work

BO1.4 .2 .4 .1 PCC & Waterproffing

BO1.4 .2 .4 .2 Rebar

BO1.4 .2 .4 .3 MEP work

BO1.4 .2 .4 .4 Concreting

BO1.4 .2 .5 Basement Level

BO1.4 .2 .5 .1 Column

BO1.4 .2 .5 .1 .1 Rebar

BO1.4 .2 .5 .1 .2 Form Work

BO1.4 .2 .5 .1 .3 Concreting

BO1.4 .2 .5 .2 Shear Wall

BO1.4 .2 .5 .2 .1 Rebar

BO1.4 .2 .5 .2 .2 Form Work

BO1.4 .2 .5 .2 .3 Concreting

BO1.4 .2 .5 .3 Slab

BO1.4 .2 .5 .3 .1 Rebar

BO1.4 .2 .5 .3 .2 Form Work

BO1.4 .2 .5 .3 .3 Conreting

BO1.4 .3 Super Structure

BO1.4 .3 .1 Ground Floor Level

BO1.4 .3 .1 .A Slab Work

BO1.4 .3 .1 .A . 1 Column

BO1.4 .3 .1 .A . 1.1 Rebar

BO1.4 .3 .1 .A . 1.2 Form Work

BO1.4 .3 .1 .A . 1.3 Concreting

BO1.4 .3 .1 .A .2 Sherar Wall

BO1.4 .3 .1 .A .2 .1 Rebar

BO1.4 .3 .1 .A .2 .2 Form Work

BO1.4 .3 .1 .A .2 .3 Concreting

BO1.4 .3 .1 .A .3 Slab

BO1.4 .3 .1 .A .3 .1 Form Work

BO1.4 .3 .1 .A .3 .2 Rebar

BO1.4 .3 .1 .A .3 .3 MEP Work

BO1.4 .3 .1 .A .3 .4 Concreting

BO1.4 .3 .2 First Floor Level

BO1.4 .3 .2 .A Slab Work

BO1.4 .3 .2 .A .1 Column

BO1.4 .3 .2 .A .1 .1 Rebar

BO1.4 .3 .2 .A .1 .2 Form Work

BO1.4 .3 .2 .A .1 .3 Concreting

BO1.4 .3 .2 .A .2 Shear Wall

BO1.4 .3 .2 .A .2 .1 Rebar

BO1.4 .3 .2 .A .2 .2 Form Work

BO1.4 .3 .2 .A .2 .3 Concreting

BO1.4 .3 .2 .A .3 Slab

BO1.4 .3 .2 .A .3 .1 Form Work

BO1.4 .3 .2 .A .3 .2 Rebar

BO1.4 .3 .2 .A .3 .3 MEP Work

BO1.4 .3 .2 .A .3 .4 Concreting

BO1.4 .3 .3 Second Floor Level

BO1.4 .3 .3 .A Slab Work

BO1.4 .3 .3 .A .1 Column

BO1.4 .3 .3 .A .2 Shear Wall

BO1.4 .3 .3 .A .3 Slab

BO1.4 .3 .3 .B Part 2

BO1.4 .3 .3 .B .1 Column

BO1.4 .3 .3 .B .2 Shear Wall

BO1.4 .3 .3 .B .3 Slab

BO1.4 .3 .4 Third Floor Level

BO1.4 .3 .4 .A Part 1

BO1.4 .3 .4 .A .1 Column

BO1.4 .3 .4 .A .2 Shear Wall

BO1.4 .3 .4 .A .3 Slab

BO1.4 .3 .4 .B Part 2

BO1.4 .3 .4 .B .1 Column

BO1.4 .3 .4 .B .2 Shear Wall

BO1.4 .3 .4 .B .3 Slab

BO1.4 .3 .5 Fifth Floor

BO1.4 .3 .5 .A Part 1

BO1.4 .3 .5 .A .1 Column

BO1.4 .3 .5 .A .2 Shear Wall

BO1.4 .3 .5 .A .3 Slab

BO1.4 .3 .5 .B Part 2





BO1.4 .3 .5 .B .1 Column

BO1.4 .3 .5 .B .2 Shear Wall

BO1.4 .3 .5 .B .3 Concreting

BO1.4 .3 .6 Sixth Floor

BO1.4 .3 .6 .A Part 1

BO1.4 .3 .6 .A .1 Column

BO1.4 .3 .6 .A .2 Shear Wall

BO1.4 .3 .6 .A .3 Slab

BO1.4 .3 .6 .B Part 2

BO1.4 .3 .6 .B .1 Column

BO1.4 .3 .6 .B .2 Shear Wall

BO1.4 .3 .6 .B .3 Slab

BO1.4 .3 .7 Seventh Floor

BO1.4 .3 .7 .A Part 1

BO1.4 .3 .7 .A .1 Column

BO1.4 .3 .7 .A .2 Shear Wall

BO1.4 .3 .7 .A .3 Slab

BO1.4 .3 .7 .B Part 2

BO1.4 .3 .7 .B .1 Column

BO1.4 .3 .7 .B .2 Shear Wall

BO1.4 .3 .7 .B .3 Slab

BO1.4 .3 .8 Roof Floor

BO1.4 .3 .8 .1 Column

BO1.4 .3 .8 .1 .1 Rebar

BO1.4 .3 .8 .1 .2 Form Work

BO1.4 .3 .8 .1 .3 Concreting

BO1.4 .3 .8 .2 Shear Wall

BO1.4 .3 .8 .2 .1 Rebar

BO1.4 .3 .8 .2 .2 Form Work

BO1.4 .3 .8 .2 .3 Concreting

BO1.4 .3 .8 .3 Slab

BO1.4 .3 .8 .3 .1 Form Work

BO1.4 .3 .8 .3 .2 Rebar

BO1.4 .3 .8 .3 .3 MEP Work

BO1.4 .3 .8 .3 .4 Concreting

BO1.4 .3 .9 Upper Roof Floor

BO1.4 .3 .9 .1 Column

BO1.4 .3 .9 .1 .1 Rebar

BO1.4 .3 .9 .1 .2 Form Work

BO1.4 .3 .9 .1 .3 Concreting

BO1.4 .3 .9 .2 Shear Wall

BO1.4 .3 .9 .2 .1 Rebar

BO1.4 .3 .9 .2 .2 Form Work

BO1.4 .3 .9 .2 .3 Concreting

BO1.4 .3 .9 .3 Slab

BO1.4 .3 .9 .3 .1 Form Work

BO1.4 .3 .9 .3 .2 Rebar

BO1.4 .3 .9 .3 .3 MEP Work

BO1.4 .3 .9 .3 .4 Concreting

BO1.4 .4 Mep Work

BO1.4 .4 .1 Electrial work

BO1.4 .4 .1 .1 Basement Level

BO1.4 .4 .1 .1 .1 1st Fix

BO1.4 .4 .1 .1 .2 2nd Fix

BO1.4 .4 .1 .1 .3 Final FIx

BO1.4 .4 .1 .2 Ground Floor Level

BO1.4 .4 .1 .2 .1 1st Fix

BO1.4 .4 .1 .2 .2 2nd Fix

BO1.4 .4 .1 .2 .3 Final FIx

BO1.4 .4 .1 .3 First Floor Level

BO1.4 .4 .1 .3 .1 1st Fix

BO1.4 .4 .1 .3 .2 2nd Fix

BO1.4 .4 .1 .3 .3 Final FIx

BO1.4 .4 .1 .4 Roof Level

BO1.4 .4 .1 .4 .1 1st Fix

BO1.4 .4 .1 .4 .2 2nd Fix

BO1.4 .4 .1 .4 .3 Final FIx

BO1.4 .4 .2 Plumbing & Drainage

BO1.4 .4 .2 .1 Basement Level

BO1.4 .4 .2 .1 .1 1st Fix

BO1.4 .4 .2 .1 .2 2nd Fix

BO1.4 .4 .2 .1 .3 Final FIx

BO1.4 .4 .2 .2 Ground Floor Level

BO1.4 .4 .2 .2 .1 1st Fix

BO1.4 .4 .2 .2 .2 2nd Fix

BO1.4 .4 .2 .2 .3 Final FIx

BO1.4 .4 .2 .3 First Floor Level

BO1.4 .4 .2 .3 .1 1st Fix

BO1.4 .4 .2 .3 .2 2nd Fix

BO1.4 .4 .2 .3 .3 Final FIx

BO1.4 .4 .2 .4 Roof Level

BO1.4 .4 .2 .4 .1 1st Fix

BO1.4 .4 .2 .4 .2 2nd Fix

BO1.4 .4 .2 .4 .3 Final FIx

BO1.4 .4 .3 A/C Work

BO1.4 .4 .3 .1 Basement Level

BO1.4 .4 .3 .1 .1 1st Fix

BO1.4 .4 .3 .1 .2 2nd Fix

BO1.4 .4 .3 .1 .3 Final FIx

BO1.4 .4 .3 .2 Ground Floor Level

BO1.4 .4 .3 .2 .1 1st Fix

BO1.4 .4 .3 .2 .2 2nd Fix

BO1.4 .4 .3 .2 .3 Final FIx



BO1.4 .4 .3 .3 First Floor Level

BO1.4 .4 .3 .3 .1 1st Fix

BO1.4 .4 .3 .3 .2 2nd Fix

BO1.4 .4 .3 .3 .3 Final FIx

BO1.4 .4 .3 .4 Roof Level

BO1.4 .4 .3 .4 .1 1st Fix

BO1.4 .4 .3 .4 .2 2nd Fix

BO1.4 .4 .3 .4 .3 Final FIx

BO1.4 .4 .4 Fire Alarm Work

BO1.4 .4 .4 .1 Basement Level

BO1.4 .4 .4 .1 .1 1st Fix

BO1.4 .4 .4 .1 .2 2nd Fix

BO1.4 .4 .4 .1 .3 Final FIx

BO1.4 .4 .4 .2 Ground Floor Level

BO1.4 .4 .4 .2 .1 1st Fix

BO1.4 .4 .4 .2 .2 2nd Fix

BO1.4 .4 .4 .2 .3 Final FIx

BO1.4 .4 .4 .3 First Floor Level

BO1.4 .4 .4 .3 .1 1st Fix

BO1.4 .4 .4 .3 .2 2nd Fix

BO1.4 .4 .4 .3 .3 Final FIx

BO1.4 .4 .4 .4 Roof Level

BO1.4 .4 .4 .4 .1 1st Fix

BO1.4 .4 .4 .4 .2 2nd Fix

BO1.4 .4 .4 .4 .3 Final FIx

BO1.4 .5 Finishing Work

BO1.4 .5 .1 Basement Floor

BO1.4 .5 .1 .A Block work & Plaster

BO1.4 .5 .1 .B Water proffing & Flooring

BO1.4 .5 .1 .B .1 Wet Area

BO1.4 .5 .1 .B .2 Dry Area

BO1.4 .5 .1 .B .3 Other Area FLooring

BO1.4 .5 .1 .C False Ceiling

BO1.4 .5 .1 .C .1 1st Fix

BO1.4 .5 .1 .C .2 2nd Fix

BO1.4 .5 .1 .D Painting Work

BO1.4 .5 .2 Ground Floor

BO1.4 .5 .2 .1 Substation Work

BO1.4 .5 .2 .A Block work & Plaster

BO1.4 .5 .2 .B Water proffing & Flooring

BO1.4 .5 .2 .B .1 Wet Area

BO1.4 .5 .2 .B .2 Dry Area

BO1.4 .5 .2 .B .3 Other Area FLooring

BO1.4 .5 .2 .C False Ceiling

BO1.4 .5 .2 .C .1 1st Fix

BO1.4 .5 .2 .C .2 2nd Fix

BO1.4 .5 .2 .D Painting Work

BO1.4 .5 .3 First Floor

BO1.4 .5 .3 .A Block work & Plaster

BO1.4 .5 .3 .B Water proffing & Flooring

BO1.4 .5 .3 .B .1 Wet Area

BO1.4 .5 .3 .B .2 Dry Area

BO1.4 .5 .3 .B .3 Other Area FLooring

BO1.4 .5 .3 .C False Ceiling

BO1.4 .5 .3 .C .1 1st Fix

BO1.4 .5 .3 .C .2 2nd Fix

BO1.4 .5 .3 .D Painting Work

BO1.4 .5 .4 Roof Floor

BO1.4 .5 .4 .A Block work & Plaster

BO1.4 .5 .4 .B Water proffing & Flooring

BO1.4 .5 .4 .B .1 Wet Area

BO1.4 .5 .4 .B .2 Dry Area

BO1.4 .5 .4 .B .3 Other Area FLooring

BO1.4 .5 .4 .C False Ceiling

BO1.4 .5 .4 .C .1 1st Fix

BO1.4 .5 .4 .C .2 2nd Fix

BO1.4 .5 .4 .D Painting Work

BO1.4 .51 Carpentry & Joinery Work

BO1.4 .51.A Basement Floor

BO1.4 .51.B Ground Floor

BO1.4 .51.C First Floor

BO1.4 .51.D Roof Floor

BO1.4 .52 Internal Decoration Work

BO1.4 .52.A Basement Floor

BO1.4 .52.B Ground Floor

BO1.4 .52.C First Floor

BO1.4 .52.D Roof Floor

BO1.4 .6 External Work

BO1.4 .6 .1 Elevation -A

BO1.4 .6 .2 Elevation -B

BO1.4 .6 .3 Elevation -C

BO1.4 .6 .4 Elevation -D

BO1.4 .6 .E Other Work

BO1.4 .6 .E .1 Paving Work

BO1.4 .6 .E .2 External Painting

BO1.4 .7 Other Subcontractors Work

BO1.4 .7 .1 Metal Work

BO1.4 .7 .2 Other Provisional Item Work

BO1.4 .8 Demobilisation & Site Cleaning

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Jorge Taguinod 👤 Member for 22 years 11 months

My perspective of WBS and CBS are quite simple.



WBS is how the WORK is broken down. Ergo, from the point of doing it. This is called project decomposition. Let’s say you’re the project owner and you want a hospital built. Do you just say, "Hey, I want a hospital?" Well, maybe. But then someone (if not the owner) has to to define the Product Scope (features of the hospital - will it have a spa, swimming pool, or even mini golf course?) What kind of diseases or illnesses can will it be able to serve?



From the product features, the deliverables will then be identified. And broken down until detailed activities have been defined.



Since all projects involve cost, Finance will have to manage the project as well. Now Finance and Engineering see the world differently. Engineers may not be very concerned about the how taxes are handled in the project, but Finance is. And these two usually break down (decompose) the project in different ways. Ergo - the CBS.



But what do the contractors see when a work package is sent out for bidding? It depends who prepared the bid documents. If it was prepared by Finance and Legal, then the contractor would most likely see CBS.



Primavera software has long realized this need and has developed its software to adresss the perspectives of multiple stakeholders. Stictly, it can handle:

1. WBS

2. Cost Accounts (aka CBS)

3. RBS - resource breakdown structures; and Roles

4. OBS - Organizatinoal Breakdown Structures

5. Activity Codes and Resources Codes - user defined codes that allow you to code your project in any way imaginable.

6. EPS - Enterprise Project Structure (allows organizations to organize projects by division, department, vision/mission/goal, etc.)



If you’re covering the whole gamut of project management (the 9 knowledge areas) - then I’d recommend Primavera Enterprise. This piece of software is able to handle all the knowledge areas of project management, from project initiation to closure.



Best regards,



Jorge

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Joanne Foster 👤 Member for 22 years 4 months

In defence (Australia) we only use the WBS and there should be only 1 WBS for the project. Our standard is DEF(AUST)5664 (you can download a copy of this from http://www.defence.gov.au/dmo/esd/evm/policy_docs.cfm).



If we need to report costs by any means other then the WBS, then we generally code up the work packages for that purpose.



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Vladimir Liberzon 👤 Member for 25 years 4 months

We usually use several WBS in one project, one of them is what is usually called CBS.

But it is not enough. There are also cost components that may belong to one project object. Cost components are not modeled by CBS. There is a need of both - CBS and cost components.

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Edgar Ariete 👤 Member for 20 years 10 months

Ernesto Puyana,



I appreciate your opinion, & I would be very grateful if you could recommend further on which planning softwares you can apply best your method of taking CBS or WBS into actual consideration.



Thanks & regards,



Edgar

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Mehdi Rashidi Alangeh 👤 Member for 22 years 11 months

I think WBS is a main structre for coordinate with all of the lements in PM But CBS used in cost accounting & cost control section.

I the fact WBS covers CBS ( OBS , etc) and WBS coordinate this items.



Regards

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Morteza Jafari 👤 Member for 22 years 10 months

the fast way is to going in P3 and search abour CBS and WBS, there is a brief report in this matter, it may be useful.

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Mehdi Rashidi Alangeh 👤 Member for 22 years 11 months

Dear all,

For more information about WBS and CBS please see Military standard such as mil-std-884 ( or 5)



Regrads

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Robin Jongen 👤 Member for 24 years 2 months

Maby it is wise to read the following book about WBS strucutures.

Effective Work Breakdown Structures

ISBN: 1-56726-135-3
Pages: 104
Date Published: 2002
Author: Gregory T. Haugan, PMP
Publisher: Management Concepts
Format: paperback
Subject: Project Management

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Ali Hamouda 👤 Member for 24 years 4 months

Can u pls post for us one of your lecture's regarding WBS?

Regards
Ali
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James Williams 👤 Member for 17 years 4 months

Ernesto,



Good point, I wholly agree.



Slighty relevant to your post - We have huge problems getting prople to think about how a WBS is useful to them, apart from the issues related to how to strucutre the thing.



I think a large part of the problem is in getting the other project members (especially in a large organisation) to understand AND appreciate what proactive planning is all about. Until people are appreciative of the benefits that we can provide, putting some structure to the programme is of little added value.



Perhaps I have a jaded view ?



Jimbo

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