Salary Survey amongst us

Fellow Planners,



After a good run in the UK on freelance, I recently moved to Queensland Australia, in a Senior role as a Planner. to give you an idea on tax, I am paying approx 30%. In addition to the salaries, if you are on a temp visa such as a 457, you may qualify for Living Away From Home Allowance, this is to be negotiated with the employer, but, believe me it makes a difference as it is tax free and can range from 15-30kAU$/yr !!!!

After reading this thread, there does seem to be a large scale of how Planners are paid worldwide. I personally have benefited financially for coming here by at least 20% compared to what i was earning freelance in the UK, but with the benefit of holiday pay, sick pay etc.etc.

There are Australian companies that pay a lot less and as Joel has said, its about how much you can sell yourself for in the end.



Cheers



Steve

HI Danya,



Would u please send the details of requirement do u have right now.



As I am looking for it.



my mail ID is



[email protected]



regards

NITIN

too less compared to GCC (gulf) salaries

Australian salary look great, remember the +/- 43% tax. Not so great now is it?

Check austrlian salaries.... its between 110K-130K Australian dollars.



http://www.seek.com.au/career-resources/salary-centre/Brisbane/engineer…

any info about singapore salary?

Hi Shiv (re South Africa)



Most of what you have read is somewhat true. we have to pay for medical aid (you dont want to rely on the state hospitals etc) but our tax rate is low so it adds up to be a similar overall expense as compared to other countries.



However, we have a serious problem with salary structures. We are definately underpaid (these are approximates):



Planner US$ 4600 - 5200

Senior Planner US$ 5200 - 7300

Planning Manager US 7300 - 8300



Australia definately pays better and I am sure the UK as well. Our cost of living is lower though, but we have a high rate of inflation and our currency is volitile and subject to a lot of fluctuations which can be scary if you are a mobile person.



Anyways, thats what its like in SA - let me know if you want any more advice. We are always looking for planners, lots of work!!!!

In Malaysia the salary is not really standardise ...it’s depend on your company that u working for...

Sreejith n ravi,

thnaks for link

cheers,

Abhi

his is also a gud link which I used to watch :

http://www.cbsalary.com/national-salary-chart.aspx?specialty=Planning+E…

This is also a gud link which I used to watch :

< a href= ’http://www.cbsalary.com/national-salary-chart.aspx?specialty=Planning+E…’>CB Salary

Salary survey for US planner:



https://secure.salary.com/jobvaluationreport/docs/jobvaluationreport/jo…

we = civilized and educated lot,non racists

Steve gave the best salary scale and if you sold yourself for less, consider yourself done in. That is part of the construction lessons you will learn.



Regards

Sreejith, I think the fact that a lot of South African planners are working in other countries; and that SA companies are looking for planners from "developing" countries should give you a clue that they are not paying international market rates at present!

Even some international companies in SA are using their offshore offices in "developing" countries for engineering / services works because their rates are cheaper.

There is no social security system at all in SA.

You will have to pay medical insurance, tax, life insurance, pension etc. etc. all out of what you earn.

Rates are improving, but still not what’s available elsewhere.

These days around ZAR350 - ZAR450 / hour for a senior.

But everyone recognises that there is a skills shortage in SA, and Companies need to fill their Affirmative Action quotas! So ensure any employment contract allows for frequent rate reviews!

Unless, of course, you are employed as an expat posted to SA.

During my initial years , I got an offer from south africa.

company was ’Group9’ or something..

They offered some $3000...

But I heard , the social security is not so good..

Even though if HO is at Durban , we may have to work in interiors / suburbs ...

I could not resist expressing my thoughts

Reading the postings sounds like there are a lot of sour grapes, thats a shame.

Hemant:

Who is this "We" ??

If you dont want explanations , just ignore the post. Thatz it.

Read the thread : it is "Salary Survey amongst us"

Not a debate on "Why should Europeans get higher pay" .



But I believe every one has the liberty to express their thoughts in a fair way. So no issues



Cheers!



Sreejith Nair

Yes, in Middle East. And if you have informations from other places, such as USA/West Europe/NZL/AUS, please post.

we should discuss what is right and wrong

we dont want explanations

every robber or killer would have clear explanation to

their acts (his version)

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Hi pavle



in middle east or elsewhere?

Hey Abhi / Hemant :

I want not arguing whether that system is right or wrong, but I was just explaining what is happening and what is the explanation given for such differences.

I am also Indian , and dont think that intellectually behind anyone!

So it wasnt a debate of right or wrong .. it was just a statement of facts !



Cheers!



Sreejith Nair

Does anyone know what are the rates for planning engineers from East Europian Region?

well told Mr Abhijit



I dont want to get in to Mr Nair’s KGB MGB or whatever

(what i know is Mac Index)but i have seen idiots earning huge sums in Arab managed companies (NOT EUROPEAN MANAGED) only because of their nationalities.



last month i was in GERMANY ,there are several nationalities working in there, polish, Indians,dutch etc

and understood that they are not being paid based on what they will earn back home or based on the currency exchange rate



Hemant



PS : One New Zealander went to traffic departmet to enquire about the procedure of getting a driving licence for his wife who just done some driving classes in NZ.

when he showed the learners driving licenece to the counter staff, it was quckly taken in and was given a receipt and was told to come back after 2 days .



he went to the department after 2 days , to his amusement

he was told to pay some fees there and from the next counter he was issed a brand new valid UAE driving license for his wife!!!!



this is not a joke

this happened to my Boss 4 years ago

dear Nair,



Indians are widely recognized as talented employees, how ever most of the good entrepreneurs are from west.



I have taken the same setance from your reply. I fully agree with you that most of the companies are from west.



But i would like to highlight one thing over here, have you gone through the corporate policies of the these companies, these companies are mentioning in bold "We are equal opportunity employer" Also there shall not be any descrimination or differaciation based on location, nationality, colour, gender, religion etc.



I hope you are quiet experianced enough to undrstand the meaning of the above. For most of the companies these policies are to hang on wall or to take the employees signature at the time of joining as a token of he agrees with that.



But when it comes to salaries or benefits theses compies very cleverly changes there stand and makes the difference as western and TCN.

there are few exceptions which really treat there employees preciously without any discrimination what so ever.



I dont agree with your explanation, and as far as my personal openion concern, the salaries should be solely dependant upon, talent, experiance and level of education.



Cheers,

Abhi

Abhi / Hemant :

If you pay 7000 AED/QAR to any European/American , he wont be able to even buy a burger back home !

So forget about savings & all !

Further, Indians are widely recognized as talented employees, how ever most of the good entrepreneurs are from west. Hence most of the top brass of Oil & gas companies are from west. The establishment of oil & gas exploration in middle east , undoubtfully goes to western people.

It is very normal that a western boss get his known people to work with him in senior posts / key positions !



How ever there are many Indians who have grown up in salaries and earning 50K+ per month .. mostly in production companies (clients)



A fair comparison will be "how many times home salary you are earning"

If the earning in UK is 80KGBP per annum , how much GBP per annum some one is earning now (Considering tax & all , what is the increase in saving)

hi Hemanth,

Yeah you have mentioned is a truth.



this is the Fact in middle east.



cheers,

Abhi

In UAE salary largely depend on the passport/nationality

for every profession

the last 15 years work experiance in Dubai

taught me that all neigbouring middle eastern countries also follow this...



here is the salary of a "junior planner" in dubai



1.Indian/Pakistani : 3000 to 7000 AED

2.Arabs : 12000 to 18000 AED

3.European/AU/NZ : 25000 +++ (if you can just read plan ,you will be recruited as a PlanningManager (!) dont worry you will have Able subordinates.)



come on boys tell the truth

In UAE salary largely depend on the passport/nationality

for every profession

the last 15 years work experiance in Dubai

taught me that all neigbouring middle eastern countries also follow this...



here is the salary of a "junior planner" in Dubai



1.Indian/Pakistani : 3000 to 7000 AED

2.Arabs : 12000 to 18000 AED

3.European/AU/NZ : 25000 +++ (if you can read plan ,you will be recruited as a PlanningManager (!) dont worry you will have Able subordinates.)





Come on boys tell the truth





Cheers





Hemant

If you go to the job page you will see exactly what the going rates are on offer for planners all around the world:)

Trust me, they don’t deviate very much from what they initially offer.



Regards

Alan

Alex,



Oil and gas client positions in Perth are paying approximately double that. The rate for a good senior planner in Perth is currently 1200 AUD / day.



SAM

Hi All !

It wont make much sense , if we plainly list and compare salaries in different countries.

Living cost , especially housing & travel are the things to be looked in.

Here in Middle east , for all senior posts, company provides house/flat , car with petrol, annual tickets, medical..etc.

We even get break fast, lunch & tea free of cost.

So , here in middle east basic salary is the ting which people compare.

For a planning engineer, basic salary can range anywhere between $900 To $9000 per month

How ever average basic salary will be $2500 per month.

But if we look at the CTC , it will be atleast double the basic , since rent is hitting anytime high in the middle east.



Back in India , salaries are compared in terms of CTC.

Very few companies provide accomodation , and those who get that will not be paid with HRA.

Average salary of planning engineer (CTC) in India will range from : $250 to $1000 per month.



You may notice the paradox that , the lower range of basic salary in the middle-east is is the higher end of CTC in India.

But some one earning $1000 per month CTC in India can live a decent life and surely make a ’not so bad’ saving !



Cheers!



Sreejith Nair

Australia



Planner : US$8000-US$9,500

Senior : US$9,500 -$12,000

Manager : US14,000- $20,000

Per Month

FIFO add 10-20%



I need to delete 2 zero’s

:-)



Alex,



Definitely u missed some zerooooooo’s

49.5%

Australia



Planner : US$8000-US$95,000

Senior : US$95,000 -$12,000

Manager : US14,000- $20,000



FIFO add 10-20%

Eleazar,



I can’t believe those figures.



But of course, if we factor or take the risk,



maybe this figures are real.

David,



These are salaries paid to employee, bare in mind these are gross figures to self employed (Ltd Company) people, taxes etc need to be deducted.

Cheers



Steve

Steve;



Where do you get your compensation #’s from? Are these CTC or Salary to employee only?

Dear Shiv,



Its better if all can post the CTC (cost to the company), becoz benefits and other facilities offered by the company varies country to country.



so its better if every body can post it "All Inclusive".



cheers,

Abhi

Ok based on todays conversion rate.

Freelance on a day rate not including accomodation,



North West UK



Planner - US$9,800-12,000/month



Snr Planner - US$14,900-16,000/month



Planning Mgr - US$18,700-20,000/month



Based on a rate of $1.972 to the £1.



Steve

hi shiv,





are those rates all inclusive(accomodation+ tranportation)









regards,



kier

COUNTRY : IRAQ

SR PLN ENGR [6-10]: 8500 TO 20000 USD PER MONTH

PLN MANAGER [11-20]: 25000 TO 30000 USD PER MONTH