Building Information Modelling 4D

Planning, Scheduling & Programming Discussion
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Keith Wildin 👤 Member for 18 years 10 months
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Stephen

I read with interest your comment about "performing construction calculation with 4D visualisation as a by-product". Can you expand on this quote, from what I have seen of BIM so far the 4D element has been a deliberate primary product of BIM. I would be interested to know more about the extent of construction calculation and SUperPlan, can you point me towards any resource to examine this further?

I am investigating the implementation of 4D visualisation at the moment so I am intriged by your comment about going straight to construction calculation.

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Stephan Jones 👤 Member for 15 years
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@Andrew - which 4D solution depends on what you want to achieve.

  1. Do you want to produce a 4D visualisation or 
  2. Do you want to perform construction calculation with 4D visualisation as a by-product?

If the answer is (1) then you have a variety of tools offering different benefits, costs and ROI

  • Navisworks - Best for CAD format interoperability, scalability and part of the Autodesk stable
  • D-Studio - Backed up by SQL database to which many other solutions can be plugged in
  • Vico - Strong but costly and a bit of an "all or nothing" experience
  • Synchro - Reasonable all rounder

If the answer is (2) then you have a limited choice but you're in for a treat

  • SUperPlan - One click automated construction schedule calculator. IFC import, automated object recognition and classification, automated "Bill of quantitie"s and "Materials", automatic schedule generated using gravity and directionality rules, schedule export to MS Project/Asta Powerproject, Budet by week/month.

My advice, skip 4D visualisation and go straight to construction calculation..

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Naveen Paladugu 👤 Member for 15 years 11 months
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Can someone give more information how does it actually work in construction industry?

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D Artagnan 👤 Member for 17 years 8 months
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Autodesk Navisworks is one of the good softwares i have used. It's very direct yet intuitive. It serves the purpose by connecting items in the model to the schedule...

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Samer Zawaydeh 👤 Member for 17 years 10 months
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Dear Andrew,



I saw this application with Primavera at an exhibition this summer. You can check their website. I am sure that they have it.



With kind regards,



Samer

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Andrew McGuigan 👤 Member for 17 years 9 months
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John



My knowledge is limited at the moment however I am exploring BIM to some degree, as primarily a Project Manager I use planning software such as M/S and ASTA and often work with engineers in my new build developments. BIM explores a whole new world of communication in such an integrated way that can benefit the whole design process in a dynamic way. What I am really interested in is the 4D modelling aspect to it, would you know of a bolt on application to the planning software that allows 3D design drawings being developed into a schedule? and do you know of how this process works?



Thanks

Andrew

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John Banks 👤 Member for 18 years 11 months
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5D modelling using Vico - Control, Estimator & Control. This is now moving to a more intergrated Vico Office system, though I’ve never used this.

I found Control to be really powerful - though it includes LOB rather than Gantt. Happy to discuss further if you like

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