Do you know that Napoleon was a product of the French Revolution. And..
the French Revolution produce the Declaration of RIGHT OF MAN. And..
The Rights of Man produce some sort of relevance to the topic at hand as quoted
"4. Liberty consists in the freedom to do everything which injures no one else; hence the exercise of the natural rights of each man has no limits except those which assure to the other members of the society the enjoyment of the same rights. These limits can only be determined by law."
I hope this will ring bells.
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Submitted by Raja Izat Raja… on Mon, 2005-08-08 00:44
Well I have to admit I dont know about the relationship between Napoleon and Beethoven or the end of it - and if I die not knowing, I dont think Ill lose any sleep between now and then.
I do know about the job I have to get up and do on Monday morning however, so Ill concentrate on that and get that bit of life right before worrying about the rest.
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Submitted by Philip Jonker on Fri, 2005-08-05 17:08
Your comments are greatly appreciated, as this is the point I was trying to raise is open discussion within the forum, Why are "WE" discussing only the smaller issues in the world? After all we are the planners! There is something fatalistic here.
Pro-activity is the answer. Take a step back, and think about Napoleon Bonaparte, and his achievements, at the end of the day NIL.
What is your dream in life? And ask yourself this question.
Do you know of the relationshio between Beethoven and Napoleon? And the end of the relationdhip?
If you do not know the answers admit it, however, if you do carry on with the comments.
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Submitted by Chris Oggham on Thu, 2005-08-04 04:18
I know we’ve had our differences in the past, but please believe me when I say that no-one is putting you on trial; there is no jury. The sole purpose of the Moderators is to ensure that the rules of the forum and guidelines for posts are followed. They have to ensure that people using the forum are not offended by anything posted on the forum, which of course means that sometimes they have to edit or delete posts.
There are some people who, having had a post edited or deleted, would react unfavourably and, if the Moderator’s identity was known, would attack them through the forum or the Private Mail facility. This means, however, that to avoid this possibility, the Moderator who edits or deletes a post must remain anonymous.
If a post is edited or deleted, I don’t believe that that is the end of it. I’m sure that a Private Mail (sent through PP Admin perhaps) explaining what was really meant could result in the post being reinstated with a suitably amended wording. What won’t do any good, though is saying the Moderators are uneducated, or calling them idiots, nor will saying they are not up to speed on all issues. Moderators necessarily have to confine themselves to the primary focus of the forum, Project/Programme Planning and Management issues.
You are obviously a man with far-ranging interests, and perhaps the scope of this forum is too restricted to cover all the subjects you want to discuss. You may find the URL below of some interest as it is one of a number of associated forums covering just about any subject you can think of.
Democracy is the best that the world was able to come up. It is in our human heart, our desire for freedom. In the exercise of democracy, we have to be responsible and considerate with others feeling and rights for democracy. Some norms, policy, procedures must be in place to protect democracy that we treasure in our hearts. We must ensure that in the exercise of individual democratic rights, such actions shall not trample on others who also wish to exercise their individual democratic rights.
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Hi guys,
Do you know that Napoleon was a product of the French Revolution. And..
the French Revolution produce the Declaration of RIGHT OF MAN. And..
The Rights of Man produce some sort of relevance to the topic at hand as quoted
"4. Liberty consists in the freedom to do everything which injures no one else; hence the exercise of the natural rights of each man has no limits except those which assure to the other members of the society the enjoyment of the same rights. These limits can only be determined by law."
I hope this will ring bells.
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20 years 5 monthsRE: Democracy vs Totalitaranism
Hi Philip,
I also like to know, why must Napoleon and Beethoven?, Why not Hitler and Michael Angelo......this is somthing intresting and make me think....why?
regards
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20 years 10 monthsRE: Democracy vs Totalitaranism
Hi Philip,
I agree we all need to learn from past mistakes, our own and that of others - and partly this is what this forum allows us to do.
If you would please elaborate further on Napoleon and Beethoven so that I might be able to use it’s relevance in my work I’d be very gratefull.
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Hi Andrew, you seem tto suffer from tunnel vision
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21 yearsRE: Democracy vs Totalitaranism
Hi Andrew,
If you do not understand the mistakes of the past, how do you want to plan the future?
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Philip,
Well I have to admit I dont know about the relationship between Napoleon and Beethoven or the end of it - and if I die not knowing, I dont think Ill lose any sleep between now and then.
I do know about the job I have to get up and do on Monday morning however, so Ill concentrate on that and get that bit of life right before worrying about the rest.
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21 yearsRE: Democracy vs Totalitaranism
Charlestone JO,
Your reply was great, and kick ass in this discussion. Come lets give them helll
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Hi Chris,
Your comments are greatly appreciated, as this is the point I was trying to raise is open discussion within the forum, Why are "WE" discussing only the smaller issues in the world? After all we are the planners! There is something fatalistic here.
Pro-activity is the answer. Take a step back, and think about Napoleon Bonaparte, and his achievements, at the end of the day NIL.
What is your dream in life? And ask yourself this question.
Do you know of the relationshio between Beethoven and Napoleon? And the end of the relationdhip?
If you do not know the answers admit it, however, if you do carry on with the comments.
Member for
21 years 5 monthsRE: Democracy vs Totalitaranism
Philip,
I know we’ve had our differences in the past, but please believe me when I say that no-one is putting you on trial; there is no jury. The sole purpose of the Moderators is to ensure that the rules of the forum and guidelines for posts are followed. They have to ensure that people using the forum are not offended by anything posted on the forum, which of course means that sometimes they have to edit or delete posts.
There are some people who, having had a post edited or deleted, would react unfavourably and, if the Moderator’s identity was known, would attack them through the forum or the Private Mail facility. This means, however, that to avoid this possibility, the Moderator who edits or deletes a post must remain anonymous.
If a post is edited or deleted, I don’t believe that that is the end of it. I’m sure that a Private Mail (sent through PP Admin perhaps) explaining what was really meant could result in the post being reinstated with a suitably amended wording. What won’t do any good, though is saying the Moderators are uneducated, or calling them idiots, nor will saying they are not up to speed on all issues. Moderators necessarily have to confine themselves to the primary focus of the forum, Project/Programme Planning and Management issues.
You are obviously a man with far-ranging interests, and perhaps the scope of this forum is too restricted to cover all the subjects you want to discuss. You may find the URL below of some interest as it is one of a number of associated forums covering just about any subject you can think of.
http://moncom.net/moncomworldevents.asp
Chris Oggham
Member for
20 years 4 monthsRE: Democracy vs Totalitaranism
Democracy is the best that the world was able to come up. It is in our human heart, our desire for freedom. In the exercise of democracy, we have to be responsible and considerate with others feeling and rights for democracy. Some norms, policy, procedures must be in place to protect democracy that we treasure in our hearts. We must ensure that in the exercise of individual democratic rights, such actions shall not trample on others who also wish to exercise their individual democratic rights.