I think suspend/resume is there for a reason. It is used during updating of programs, such as when late deliveries occur, which stops a certain activity, Should there be simular problems occuring in the same activity, either a log can be recorded, or the activity can be allocated its own calendar, showing the disruptions as non-working periods. In normal terms, it is not likely that more than one such disruption should occur, but it happens occasionally and therfore for the purpose of good recording of events, we have calendars, logs, etc. UNDERSTAND THE PROBLEM AND WORK OUT THE SOLUTION WITH THE TOOLS AT HAND.
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Submitted by Ronald Winter on Fri, 2005-06-17 12:36
There are several reasons why the Suspend/Resume option is less useful than plain old splitting the activity. Speaking of my experience with this feature using P3,
1) you can only Resume once. How may issues like weather do you see where it stops raining and never starts again? Life is complex and a single Suspend/Resume per activity is often not enough.
2) You cannot properly use Suspend in the ‘future’. Setting a projected Suspend date past the current data date will cause P3 to act as if the Suspend is currently underway. No one seems to notice this fault and most continue to use it in this condition.
Anything that you can do with Suspend/Resume, you can do more simply and with better explanation by splitting an activity into its multiple parts when the delay is encountered or planned.
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Submitted by Dayanidhi Dhandapany on Fri, 2005-06-17 05:50
As a Primavera PAR, I have a whole industry waiting for suspend/resume! So much of the work done here in the Offshore Oil and Gas sector is weather sensitive. We do not know when the weather window will close, so we cannot break an activity into two parts when we prepare the plan. I have the Beta of V5 - it works!
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Submitted by Jihad Daniel on Tue, 2005-06-14 03:49
However, Suspend/Resume option is helpful in tracking activities and identify suspension/resume dates and reasons for delays. This option helps in forensic planning and contractual matters specially if the consented and agreed upon schedule is not detailed and broken down to lower levels. Furthermore, each feature in Primavera is created to have a certain role and help the Planner in managing his program. Why not use this feature if it exists and why going to another "clever" alternative which is not always exhaustive.
With all my respects and regards,
J. Daniel
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22 years 10 months
Member for22 years10 months
Submitted by Ronald Winter on Tue, 2005-06-14 00:33
Let’s be honest here. Suspend/Resume never worked the way we wanted it to in P3. Let’s not hold our breath for it being any better in P3e/c. A FAR superior alternative to Suspend/Resume is to break the activity into two parts; “Dig Ditch 0-123 m. until Obstruction Encountered” and “Repair LPG Pipe & Dig Ditch 123-450 m.” is much better than Suspend/Resume. Don’t wait for a poor feature when your brain is still available. Good luck!
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21 yearsRE: SUSPEND DATES
I think suspend/resume is there for a reason. It is used during updating of programs, such as when late deliveries occur, which stops a certain activity, Should there be simular problems occuring in the same activity, either a log can be recorded, or the activity can be allocated its own calendar, showing the disruptions as non-working periods. In normal terms, it is not likely that more than one such disruption should occur, but it happens occasionally and therfore for the purpose of good recording of events, we have calendars, logs, etc. UNDERSTAND THE PROBLEM AND WORK OUT THE SOLUTION WITH THE TOOLS AT HAND.
Regards
Member for
22 years 10 monthsRE: SUSPEND DATES
There are several reasons why the Suspend/Resume option is less useful than plain old splitting the activity. Speaking of my experience with this feature using P3,
1) you can only Resume once. How may issues like weather do you see where it stops raining and never starts again? Life is complex and a single Suspend/Resume per activity is often not enough.
2) You cannot properly use Suspend in the ‘future’. Setting a projected Suspend date past the current data date will cause P3 to act as if the Suspend is currently underway. No one seems to notice this fault and most continue to use it in this condition.
Anything that you can do with Suspend/Resume, you can do more simply and with better explanation by splitting an activity into its multiple parts when the delay is encountered or planned.
Member for
22 years 7 monthsRE: SUSPEND DATES
I think Rons solution is right in one way, If you expect something is going to happen but for unforseen situations suspend dates option is required.
Member for
21 yearsRE: SUSPEND DATES
As a Primavera PAR, I have a whole industry waiting for suspend/resume! So much of the work done here in the Offshore Oil and Gas sector is weather sensitive. We do not know when the weather window will close, so we cannot break an activity into two parts when we prepare the plan. I have the Beta of V5 - it works!
Member for
20 years 6 monthsRE: SUSPEND DATES
However, Suspend/Resume option is helpful in tracking activities and identify suspension/resume dates and reasons for delays. This option helps in forensic planning and contractual matters specially if the consented and agreed upon schedule is not detailed and broken down to lower levels. Furthermore, each feature in Primavera is created to have a certain role and help the Planner in managing his program. Why not use this feature if it exists and why going to another "clever" alternative which is not always exhaustive.
With all my respects and regards,
J. Daniel
Member for
22 years 10 monthsRE: SUSPEND DATES
Let’s be honest here. Suspend/Resume never worked the way we wanted it to in P3. Let’s not hold our breath for it being any better in P3e/c. A FAR superior alternative to Suspend/Resume is to break the activity into two parts; “Dig Ditch 0-123 m. until Obstruction Encountered” and “Repair LPG Pipe & Dig Ditch 123-450 m.” is much better than Suspend/Resume. Don’t wait for a poor feature when your brain is still available. Good luck!
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21 yearsRE: SUSPEND DATES
Until version 5, all you can do is use an actvity specific calendar
Member for
20 years 10 monthsRE: SUSPEND DATES
Suspend and resume dates are in version 5, which is scheduled to be available in July 2005.
Regards,
Bill