When I was 12 or 13, I was a helper of a construction laborer. When I was 26, I was doing the so-called planning or scheduling in a foreign country. At my age now, I still don't know or understand which comes first: The Chicken or the Egg? I guess Planning is similar. So you must work and earn the knowledge yourself. It is a good start to learn how to ask the right questions.
Thanks for the reply and i totally agreed with you. This is the only way to become a good planner.
But i met some people who are very good planner but no or less site experience. I talked to him and they said you need to study and fully understand the BOQ documents and drawings. I think we can breakdown the project into smaller activities through BOQ document, but problem will arise in Resource management which is totally based on manpower productivity, and this experience comes only through by site experience.
Secondly, some people say every company has their own productivity rates standard. So planner has to used their rates.
I am working in a company where Baseline comes from the client or consultant.We only need to update or sometimes have to modify it.
I am 26 now and if i start my career from the junior site engineer then it takes me much time to go through your suggested way and i cannot afford to do so.
So i want to learn,study all the requirements to become a good planner in a short interval rather than start of my career from the scratch, and i know i did mistake by choosing planning field directly.
Thanks for the advice and yes you are right,i agreed. But you know some building projects are more or less symmetrical and have almost similar activities. Let's say housing project ,Residential Flats etc.
Actually i need xer files of different projects just to learn how to breakup the project into smaller activities.
Every project is unique, building construction may vary from foundation. Depending on design, some may require pile(s) foundation, others may have only raft or spread foundation. Some buildings may have 10 basements, others may have not. I suggest you learn how to build from drawings and specifications. Activities may become typical for some floors, again, depending on specific details. When you learn how to define activities, correspondingly, you must also learn how to calculate quantities. I guess this is the elementary.
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19 years 1 monthWhen I was 12 or 13, I was a
When I was 12 or 13, I was a helper of a construction laborer. When I was 26, I was doing the so-called planning or scheduling in a foreign country. At my age now, I still don't know or understand which comes first: The Chicken or the Egg? I guess Planning is similar. So you must work and earn the knowledge yourself. It is a good start to learn how to ask the right questions.
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7 yearsDear Mike,Thanks for the
Dear Mike,
Thanks for the reply and i totally agreed with you. This is the only way to become a good planner.
But i met some people who are very good planner but no or less site experience. I talked to him and they said you need to study and fully understand the BOQ documents and drawings. I think we can breakdown the project into smaller activities through BOQ document, but problem will arise in Resource management which is totally based on manpower productivity, and this experience comes only through by site experience.
Secondly, some people say every company has their own productivity rates standard. So planner has to used their rates.
I am working in a company where Baseline comes from the client or consultant.We only need to update or sometimes have to modify it.
I am 26 now and if i start my career from the junior site engineer then it takes me much time to go through your suggested way and i cannot afford to do so.
So i want to learn,study all the requirements to become a good planner in a short interval rather than start of my career from the scratch, and i know i did mistake by choosing planning field directly.
Thanks
Regards,
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19 years 10 monthsHi MuhammadSorry but you have
Hi Muhammad
Sorry but you have to learn that by your own experiiance. Don't try to be a planner until you have learnt how to build it.
My advice is to work as a junior capacity on a construction site for a year or two and get some mud on your boots.
Then move into planning when you are confident.
Best regards
Mike Testro
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7 yearsDear Anoon,Thanks for the
Dear Anoon,
Thanks for the advice and yes you are right,i agreed. But you know some building projects are more or less symmetrical and have almost similar activities. Let's say housing project ,Residential Flats etc.
Actually i need xer files of different projects just to learn how to breakup the project into smaller activities.
Thanks again
Regards
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19 years 10 monthsHi AnoonAlthough your
Hi Anoon
Although your excelent advice was worth saying twice I have deleted your duplicate post.
Best regards
Mike testro - Moderator
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19 years 1 monthEvery project is unique,
Every project is unique, building construction may vary from foundation. Depending on design, some may require pile(s) foundation, others may have only raft or spread foundation. Some buildings may have 10 basements, others may have not. I suggest you learn how to build from drawings and specifications. Activities may become typical for some floors, again, depending on specific details. When you learn how to define activities, correspondingly, you must also learn how to calculate quantities. I guess this is the elementary.