I also though Linkedin immediately. As already stated, there is no discussion at linkedin, maybe because everyone there sells themselves as consultants? There is no professional - trainee opportunities, just client - consultant. Throw a topic at linkedin and your audience will be divided in people who revers your opinion on the topic and people who will defend their opinion on the topic, against yours, at any costs.
In my time (Yet I'm not that old, but knowledge grows incredibly fast in the current times) there was not so many resources to learn, and having support from professionals with years of experience helped me to become very good at controlling a Critical Path Network in a very short amount of time. I think Planning Planet keeps being an important repository of knowledge on Project Controls, but the current generations are so used at immediate solutions! there is no digging into the depths of a problem to build an answer, there is this unwritten rule of the internet "No matter what your problem is, someone has faced it before and has already found a solution, and that solution surely is in the internet". A good example for this is stackoverflow.com
The difference in Planning Planet then is the close support from experienced professionals willing to share their TAKE (not their SOLUTION) on a problem. The first key difference is the Project approach: Since a project is a "Temporary endeavor undertaken to create a unique product, service or result", then a person arriving to Planning Planet should not expect to find the solution for the unique requirements of his/her project, though he/she might find how the Tools are applyable to his/hers project's case. How can we foster this approach instead of this trending take-knowledge-and-leave-the-source?
The second key are the Tools. I will not enter the discussion on what PM software is better because we already know it's Spider Project, the Tools I am talking about is the old Critical Path Method. Maybe I should have said skills. Understanding that the Critical Path Network contains all the scope of a Project is the key for rich discussions:
Understand that every activity has at least one predecessor and one succesor, then it has float AND it falls inside the Project's Scope.
Grow it a level, understand that no plan will come exactly as planned: scope can increase, resorces may scarce, the Critical Path will change, time to reach milestones will change, claims are natural.
Grow it a level, understand that every activity should be performed by some person, then it has resources and costs, and they fit inside the Critical Path Network's database, why not? It is just natural.
Grow it a level, understand that every activity has risk, then it has buffer.
Take the opposite approach: What is your project's risk approach if there is no Critical path? How much software and resources does your project need to control costs? Have you suffered from being delayed months on the delivery of a project, but have no critical path to understand and prove delays? How do you notice delays in your project delivery, if you are not updating a CPM network?
Of course, better quality in the Project Controls trade means more, better business for us people involved on Critical Path jobs (Except Mike, Mike grows rich from projects with no controls. But Claims is also a CPM trade, no?) But what else is our interest in improving the quality of the Project Controls trade?
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Submitted by Vladimir Liberzon on Wed, 2018-07-18 17:34
Hi Vladimir.
Short answer - LinkedIn.
That is where the best discussions are held now.
I get 80% of my work from LinkedIn by getting involved with the topics and writing new articles.
Best regards
Mike T.
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Submitted by Vladimir Liberzon on Mon, 2018-07-16 11:02
Good to know you are ok. As always I enjoy Planning Planet discussions.
I still find no match to PP even when as Mike says PP has changed since you left. In my opinion not all these changes are good, I have a particular dislike for the Guild of Projects Control.
Hi Carlos
Nice to hear from you.
PP has changed since you left - there is not so much fun stuff these days.
I may quit when I reach 5,000 posts
Best regards
Mike T.
Member for
16 years 5 monthsGlad to see you all again,I
Glad to see you all again,
I also though Linkedin immediately. As already stated, there is no discussion at linkedin, maybe because everyone there sells themselves as consultants? There is no professional - trainee opportunities, just client - consultant. Throw a topic at linkedin and your audience will be divided in people who revers your opinion on the topic and people who will defend their opinion on the topic, against yours, at any costs.
In my time (Yet I'm not that old, but knowledge grows incredibly fast in the current times) there was not so many resources to learn, and having support from professionals with years of experience helped me to become very good at controlling a Critical Path Network in a very short amount of time. I think Planning Planet keeps being an important repository of knowledge on Project Controls, but the current generations are so used at immediate solutions! there is no digging into the depths of a problem to build an answer, there is this unwritten rule of the internet "No matter what your problem is, someone has faced it before and has already found a solution, and that solution surely is in the internet". A good example for this is stackoverflow.com
The difference in Planning Planet then is the close support from experienced professionals willing to share their TAKE (not their SOLUTION) on a problem. The first key difference is the Project approach: Since a project is a "Temporary endeavor undertaken to create a unique product, service or result", then a person arriving to Planning Planet should not expect to find the solution for the unique requirements of his/her project, though he/she might find how the Tools are applyable to his/hers project's case. How can we foster this approach instead of this trending take-knowledge-and-leave-the-source?
The second key are the Tools. I will not enter the discussion on what PM software is better because we already know it's Spider Project, the Tools I am talking about is the old Critical Path Method. Maybe I should have said skills. Understanding that the Critical Path Network contains all the scope of a Project is the key for rich discussions:
Take the opposite approach: What is your project's risk approach if there is no Critical path? How much software and resources does your project need to control costs? Have you suffered from being delayed months on the delivery of a project, but have no critical path to understand and prove delays? How do you notice delays in your project delivery, if you are not updating a CPM network?
Of course, better quality in the Project Controls trade means more, better business for us people involved on Critical Path jobs (Except Mike, Mike grows rich from projects with no controls. But Claims is also a CPM trade, no?) But what else is our interest in improving the quality of the Project Controls trade?
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24 years 8 monthsMike,I notice the same
Mike,
I notice the same tendency in Linkedin groups.
Less professional discussions, more advertisements.
Member for
19 years 10 monthsHi Vladimir. Short answer -
Hi Vladimir.
Short answer - LinkedIn.
That is where the best discussions are held now.
I get 80% of my work from LinkedIn by getting involved with the topics and writing new articles.
Best regards
Mike T.
Member for
24 years 8 monthsHi Carlos,I am still here and
Hi Carlos,
I am still here and still consider PP as the best place for professional discussions on scheduling.
But you may notice that the number of posts on scheduling problems is less than before and not only here.
I don't know the reason for this but suspect that it is caused by less attention to the quality of scheduling in the world.
We may discuss why it happens.
Best Regards,
Vladimir
Member for
21 years 8 monthsCarlos,Good to know you are
Carlos,
Good to know you are ok. As always I enjoy Planning Planet discussions.
I still find no match to PP even when as Mike says PP has changed since you left. In my opinion not all these changes are good, I have a particular dislike for the Guild of Projects Control.
Saludos Cordiales,
Rafael
Member for
19 years 10 monthsHi Carlos Nice to hear from
Hi Carlos
Nice to hear from you.
PP has changed since you left - there is not so much fun stuff these days.
I may quit when I reach 5,000 posts
Best regards
Mike T.
Member for
16 years 9 monthsHello Carlos,Welcome back to
Hello Carlos,
Welcome back to the land of never ending discussion, ha ha.
Best Regards, the PP Administration Team