I could not see any variable name such as varaince percentage target 2 in the P3 after following your procedure. If possible you can forward the files to plannerdaya@yahoo.com for my reference.
Cheers!!!
Daya
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Submitted by Hemanth Kumar on Wed, 2004-12-08 11:58
Thanks for your reply. The question is how to show %variance?. It is easy to calculate in Global change and show it in activity columns, but you are telling that this can be done in bar format, even if you use position as 1 for Target and Current or Early bar, we can show either one of the Current Progress percentage or Target percentage; i could not see an option of showing variance percentage? again we have to use custom data to show the variance in the bar chart area?or is there any simple way to show the %variance in the bar?. Your help on this matter is highly appreciated.
Regards
Daya
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Submitted by Philip Jonker on Tue, 2004-12-07 10:50
The question is how to calculate planned percentage, for activities in the target project, activities that should have been completed before the data date is obviously 100% and those that is scheduled to start after the the data date 0%. The problem is to calculate the planned progress on activities that should be in progress, which can be done by using the planned start date, data date and original duration, that part is simple, the trick is to ensure that the right calender is taken into consideration. Then the results can be deducted from the actual progress and the variance obtained. This is if you need the variance for individual activities.
However, if you want the variance for the overall project, or portions of the project, resource the project, use s-curves. If you don’t have resources, create a dummy resources and use your original durations as quantities. Remember you need to resource both the target and updated project. For s-curves you need to go to tools/graphic reports, and set up a report there. Should have a problem with that shout. Should you want s-curves for certain sections of the project, use your coding structure
Regards,
Philip
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Submitted by Maria Ahlberg on Tue, 2004-12-07 10:30
2) If a resource is not working 100% at one activity he or she can have done 90% of a job after 50% of the time scheduled. Then pct and RD is not the same. To be able to show how much work that is actually done in this case, RD and PCT have to be unlinked.
3) I meant by using Targets together with an early bar showing PCT not linked to RD.
Daya,
Please se 3) in my reply.
I always try to show as much as I can grafically, which is why I tried to find a solution to ad to your global change method.
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Submitted by Dayanidhi Dhandapany on Tue, 2004-12-07 09:32
Yes, It is a matter of presentation, one is in bar format and the other one is showing the percentage variance in the activity columns. I’ve given the solution(global change....) thinking of activity columns only, but i could not see anything like showing percentage variance (between target and current) in current bar. we don’t have variance target 1 percent complete in P3 (like varaince target1 early finish), i would appreciate you if you could show me the way to do it in bar format.
Cheers!!!
Daya
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Submitted by Jaco Stadler on Tue, 2004-12-07 09:27
I think you are talking about the way to calculate % of completion but it is well understood that the calculation of percentage completion depends on the nature of work involved for the activities. But Hemanth Kumar’s main intention is how to show the percentage variation. Since there is no straight forward way of showing like percentage variance(between target and current) he has to go for using global change to do the calculation.............
Cheers!!!
Daya
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Submitted by Maria Ahlberg on Tue, 2004-12-07 05:47
Do you have linked percente complete and remaining duration?
You can check at: Tools/Optiona/Autocost rules.
If you dont link remaining duration and percente complete you see the actual percent complete on the bar. If you link remaining duration and percente comlpete you always show a schedule indikating that you are exactly on time (if you dont use targets).
My advise is: use targetprojects AND do not link RD and PCT
Regards
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Submitted by Dayanidhi Dhandapany on Tue, 2004-12-07 03:41
link your target project to your current project from tools->project utilities->targets->(choose your target file here)
simple way would be: format -> columns->choose target1 variance(cost)
but if you want to have percentage varaince, you have to use global change to find the difference between current progress & target progress, and store the percentage into a custom data varaiable and display the item in the column area.
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Hi there;
I was facing the same problem.And now on I will be using the solutions which were proposed here..
But;could it be possible to export the current schedule and compare with the baseline schedule in Excel...?
Or for such comparison; could we use some other softwares like; Primaplan etc..?
I remain..
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Hi Hemanth,
Don’t feel sorry, it might be a genuine mistake. Let us keep participating in P3 forum.
Cheers!!!
Daya
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dear daya
sorry
what i wanted was calculated %
yes there is no var-tar%2
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22 years 7 monthsRE: RE:
Hi Hemanth,
I could not see any variable name such as varaince percentage target 2 in the P3 after following your procedure. If possible you can forward the files to plannerdaya@yahoo.com for my reference.
Cheers!!!
Daya
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friends
thanks for every body
Here is how iam doing it now
i created 2 targets before updating progress
i opened the target-2
and progressed 2nd target to the current data date -using the utility-"update progress in P3-v3
then created a activity colum-"variancepercentage targ-2.
this is working
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22 years 7 monthsRE: RE:
Hello Maria,
Thanks for your reply. The question is how to show %variance?. It is easy to calculate in Global change and show it in activity columns, but you are telling that this can be done in bar format, even if you use position as 1 for Target and Current or Early bar, we can show either one of the Current Progress percentage or Target percentage; i could not see an option of showing variance percentage? again we have to use custom data to show the variance in the bar chart area?or is there any simple way to show the %variance in the bar?. Your help on this matter is highly appreciated.
Regards
Daya
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21 yearsRE: RE:
Hi All,
The question is how to calculate planned percentage, for activities in the target project, activities that should have been completed before the data date is obviously 100% and those that is scheduled to start after the the data date 0%. The problem is to calculate the planned progress on activities that should be in progress, which can be done by using the planned start date, data date and original duration, that part is simple, the trick is to ensure that the right calender is taken into consideration. Then the results can be deducted from the actual progress and the variance obtained. This is if you need the variance for individual activities.
However, if you want the variance for the overall project, or portions of the project, resource the project, use s-curves. If you don’t have resources, create a dummy resources and use your original durations as quantities. Remember you need to resource both the target and updated project. For s-curves you need to go to tools/graphic reports, and set up a report there. Should have a problem with that shout. Should you want s-curves for certain sections of the project, use your coding structure
Regards,
Philip
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21 years 5 monthsRE: RE:
Jaco
1) I am using targets, allways.
2) If a resource is not working 100% at one activity he or she can have done 90% of a job after 50% of the time scheduled. Then pct and RD is not the same. To be able to show how much work that is actually done in this case, RD and PCT have to be unlinked.
3) I meant by using Targets together with an early bar showing PCT not linked to RD.
Daya,
Please se 3) in my reply.
I always try to show as much as I can grafically, which is why I tried to find a solution to ad to your global change method.
Regards
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22 years 7 monthsRE: RE:
Maria,
Yes, It is a matter of presentation, one is in bar format and the other one is showing the percentage variance in the activity columns. I’ve given the solution(global change....) thinking of activity columns only, but i could not see anything like showing percentage variance (between target and current) in current bar. we don’t have variance target 1 percent complete in P3 (like varaince target1 early finish), i would appreciate you if you could show me the way to do it in bar format.
Cheers!!!
Daya
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21 years 2 monthsRE: RE:
Maria
1) Why will you not be using Targets ?
2) Why will % complete & Remaining Duration not be the SAME. (WHY UNLINK THE ITEMS.)
3) HOW DO YOU SHOW PLANNED PERCENTAGE ON A BAR.
CHEERS
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21 years 5 monthsRE: RE:
I do not agree.
If you want to show the difference between planned and actual percentage you can show it grafically in the bars.
If you on the other hand want a % value showing the difference between planned and actual pct then you can use the global change.
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22 years 7 monthsRE: RE:
Hello Maria,
I think you are talking about the way to calculate % of completion but it is well understood that the calculation of percentage completion depends on the nature of work involved for the activities. But Hemanth Kumar’s main intention is how to show the percentage variation. Since there is no straight forward way of showing like percentage variance(between target and current) he has to go for using global change to do the calculation.............
Cheers!!!
Daya
Member for
21 years 5 monthsRE: RE:
How do you update your schedule?
Do you have linked percente complete and remaining duration?
You can check at: Tools/Optiona/Autocost rules.
If you dont link remaining duration and percente complete you see the actual percent complete on the bar. If you link remaining duration and percente comlpete you always show a schedule indikating that you are exactly on time (if you dont use targets).
My advise is: use targetprojects AND do not link RD and PCT
Regards
Member for
22 years 7 monthsRE:
link your target project to your current project from tools->project utilities->targets->(choose your target file here)
simple way would be: format -> columns->choose target1 variance(cost)
but if you want to have percentage varaince, you have to use global change to find the difference between current progress & target progress, and store the percentage into a custom data varaiable and display the item in the column area.
HTH