In 1938, Edward Kasners nine-year-old nephew Milton Sirotta coined the term googol; Milton then proposed the further term googolplex to be "one, followed by writing zeroes until you get tired". Kasner decided to adopt a more formal definition "because different people get tired at different times and it would never do to have [boxing champion] Carnera be a better mathematician than Dr. Einstein, simply because he had more endurance and could write for longer.".
The time it would take to write such a number also renders the task implausible: if a person can write two digits per second, it would take around about 1.51 × 1092 years, which is 1.1 × 1082 times the age of the universe, to write a googolplex.
The even larger number is:
Even larger still is the "googol multiplex", which was defined by Paul Doyle (University of Maryland, College Park, 1981), using Knuths up-arrow notation as , where "Gp" = a googolplex
Now we know what they call the largest number possible.
Google meaning is known to many, by in any event, this is the official meaning:
Why is Google Called Google?
Googol is the mathematical term for a 1 followed by 100 zeros. The term was coined by Milton Sirotta, nephew of American mathematician Edward Kasner, and was popularized in the book, “Mathematics and the Imagination” by Kasner and James Newman. Google’s play on the term reflects the company’s mission to organize the immense amount of information available on the web.”
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Submitted by Rafael Davila on Fri, 2009-07-24 08:52
Our threads crossed in the post - so we are going on to words now rather than numbers.
I never trust anything from wikipedia but their definition of Axiom seems plausible.
I have never used it but it seems to be the equivalent of the phrase "Is that a Given?" which is used by pseudo philosophers to stop a profound declamation in its tracks.
A lot of lovely words come from Greek roots - so what is the plural of hippopotomas?
What mathematical rule has been known to exist for about 400 years but has not yet been proven? (not PI)
The four colour rule - used by cartographers who only need four colours to fill in the zones on any map and not have two of the same colour on any adjacent line.
What matematical rule is known to be impossible - but has a symbol to represent it when required in equations.
Any equation that requires the use of a square root of a minus number - I think the symbol is ~n.
Any more out there - for instance who knows what a googol number is? Or for that matter a googolplex? My 13 year old Grandson does.
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Submitted by Samer Zawaydeh on Thu, 2009-07-23 16:53
The word "axiom" comes from the Greek word ἀξίωμα (axioma), a verbal noun from the verb ἀξιόειν (axioein), meaning "to deem worthy", but also "to require", which in turn comes from ἄξιος (axios), meaning "being in balance", and hence "having (the same) value (as)", "worthy", "proper". Among the ancient Greek philosophers an axiom was a claim which could be seen to be true without any need for proof.
Maybe one time, a case will come your way and you tell its Owner that he has an Axiom.
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Submitted by Rafael Davila on Wed, 2009-07-22 18:33
I tried with the plain vanilla ice cream and found it to be vanilla sour. It ended up looking like pralines and cream, but it was plain vanilla, with a TIA I will figure it out.
" Every positive number x has two square roots. One of them is , which is positive, and the other , which is negative. Together, these two roots are denoted . "
This just proves that there are four types of planners.
1. Those who can add up.
2. Those who cant add up.
3. Those who cant be bothered.
By the way - for those of you who have a mathematical bent here is a particular question - a special accolade for whoever gives the first correct answer:
What is the square root of the number 9?
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Submitted by Rafael Davila on Wed, 2009-07-22 09:58
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Hi Samer
I never believe a thing I read in Wikipedia.
An interesting coincidence is that my 13 year old Grandson is a James Newman and his defition of the biggest number possible is - infinty +1.
He also says that infinity +2 is a nonsense as you cant get bigger than the biggest possible number.
Who am I to argue?
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Dear Mike,
Thank you for the question. This added new terminology for me and led to the discovery of an even larger number:
Googolplex
From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
This article is about the number. For the headquarters of Google Inc., see Googleplex. For other uses, see googol (disambiguation).
A googolplex is the number 10googol, which can also be written as the number 1 followed by a googol of zeros (i.e. 10100 zeros).
1 googolplex
= 10googol
= 10(10100)
= 1010000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000
History
In 1938, Edward Kasners nine-year-old nephew Milton Sirotta coined the term googol; Milton then proposed the further term googolplex to be "one, followed by writing zeroes until you get tired". Kasner decided to adopt a more formal definition "because different people get tired at different times and it would never do to have [boxing champion] Carnera be a better mathematician than Dr. Einstein, simply because he had more endurance and could write for longer.".
The time it would take to write such a number also renders the task implausible: if a person can write two digits per second, it would take around about 1.51 × 1092 years, which is 1.1 × 1082 times the age of the universe, to write a googolplex.
The even larger number is:
Even larger still is the "googol multiplex", which was defined by Paul Doyle (University of Maryland, College Park, 1981), using Knuths up-arrow notation as , where "Gp" = a googolplex
Now we know what they call the largest number possible.
Thank you again for the information.
With kind regards,
Samer
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Hi Samer
So what is a googolplex?
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Mike Testro
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Dear Mike,
Google meaning is known to many, by in any event, this is the official meaning:
Why is Google Called Google?
Googol is the mathematical term for a 1 followed by 100 zeros. The term was coined by Milton Sirotta, nephew of American mathematician Edward Kasner, and was popularized in the book, “Mathematics and the Imagination” by Kasner and James Newman. Google’s play on the term reflects the company’s mission to organize the immense amount of information available on the web.”
Have a nice weekend.
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We got a few as an experiment to control water lilies in our water reservoirs.
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Hi Rafael
Hippopotomas is a greek word meaning horse (hippo) of the river(potomas)
Hippopotami is a latin plural form bolted onto a greek word and is linguistically absurd.
I used to think the greek plural would be hippopotomodes unitl a greek scholar told me that was horse of the rivers - again a nonsense.
The plural of hippo (horse)is - apparently hoi hippoi so the true plural would be hoi hippoi potomas.
You may have gathered from all this that I have a sort of septic tank brain - after a while most things will rise to the surface.
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hippopotami (google told me)
Samer is the Greek connoisseur; I am still dealing with my ice-cream frostbites.
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Hi Rafael
Our threads crossed in the post - so we are going on to words now rather than numbers.
I never trust anything from wikipedia but their definition of Axiom seems plausible.
I have never used it but it seems to be the equivalent of the phrase "Is that a Given?" which is used by pseudo philosophers to stop a profound declamation in its tracks.
A lot of lovely words come from Greek roots - so what is the plural of hippopotomas?
Best regards
Mike Testro.
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Hi Rafael
You have had long enough.
What mathematical rule has been known to exist for about 400 years but has not yet been proven? (not PI)
The four colour rule - used by cartographers who only need four colours to fill in the zones on any map and not have two of the same colour on any adjacent line.
What matematical rule is known to be impossible - but has a symbol to represent it when required in equations.
Any equation that requires the use of a square root of a minus number - I think the symbol is ~n.
Any more out there - for instance who knows what a googol number is? Or for that matter a googolplex? My 13 year old Grandson does.
Best regards
Mike Testro
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Dear Mike,
I came across this definition that I thought you might find interesting:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Postulates
The word "axiom" comes from the Greek word ἀξίωμα (axioma), a verbal noun from the verb ἀξιόειν (axioein), meaning "to deem worthy", but also "to require", which in turn comes from ἄξιος (axios), meaning "being in balance", and hence "having (the same) value (as)", "worthy", "proper". Among the ancient Greek philosophers an axiom was a claim which could be seen to be true without any need for proof.
Maybe one time, a case will come your way and you tell its Owner that he has an Axiom.
Have a nice evening.
Samer
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VANILLA SOUR
I tried with the plain vanilla ice cream and found it to be vanilla sour. It ended up looking like pralines and cream, but it was plain vanilla, with a TIA I will figure it out.
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Rafael
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Hi Samer
Everybody loves a smart arse.
By the way Bob Hope’s definition of a smart arse was a boy who could sit on an ice cream and tell you the flavour.
Here are two more to test you:
What mathematical rule has been known to exist for about 400 years but has not yet been proven? (not PI)
What matematical rule is known to be impossible - but has a symbol to represent it when required in equations.
Any from you?
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Mike Testro.
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Dear Mike,
I will select the answer = +/- 3.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Square_root
" Every positive number x has two square roots. One of them is , which is positive, and the other , which is negative. Together, these two roots are denoted . "
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Samer
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Hi All
This just proves that there are four types of planners.
1. Those who can add up.
2. Those who cant add up.
3. Those who cant be bothered.
By the way - for those of you who have a mathematical bent here is a particular question - a special accolade for whoever gives the first correct answer:
What is the square root of the number 9?
Best regards
Mike Testro
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And I just uninstalled Mathematica from my PC and my brain.
A Protocol for this purpose should be issued so it is no longer an indeterminate sytem of equations.
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Rafael,
Seems to be a case of conjugate elements!
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Gordon, are you submitting a proposal for extra work? I am willing to sign it for 100% (not 113%).
I know you did it on purpose, some noticed and said nothing while others did not.
Yes, this is what happens with the news.
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Rafael
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Hi Hemanth
No one will ever know.
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HI Gordon
if that is the percentages in a democratic setup
what will be in a non democratic setup ?
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Thats a fair point, with some media outlets you have to be very careful, a good rule of thumb is that:
25% of the data will be accurate
28% of the data will be erroneous due to exaggeration by well meaning but over enthusiastic reporters
18% of the data will be erroneous due to preconceptions of the editorial team
23% of the data will be erroneous through being bent to match the agenda of the media ownership, and
19% of the data will be erroneous purely due to bad maths.
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Normally I take Only 10% of data of newspaper statistics in this part of the world
No accountability
report is what is told to report