Thanks for the explanation. Sorry I was misleaded. In your first post you mentioned a new installed "virgin" pc. So I assumed that you didnt install that stuff.
Sony Vaio and The Likes of Fancy Laptops Have a great amount of Fancy Software that they bundle with their machines for free Those are usually called in present tech. forums as "Bloatware" or "Carpware" or even "Crapware :)" - Those Software had been responsible for so many problems in Vaios but not this one , However another interesting fact was ;
Also some fancy machines feature extra security measures Like Fingerprint readers (wasnt the problem) and TPM (Total Protection Management) Chipset that interrupts both the Bios and Windows To provide almost invincible machine to hijackers – Now this little midget was using Btrieve module access to DOS database (WOWEXEC and NTVDM) and hence the conflict with Filters in Primavera P3 , P3.3 & P3e & P4 (Tested them all)
I found this by trial and error
First: I installed XP with no drivers at all
Second: Installed Primavera
Third: Started Installing the Drivers one by one and testing P3 after each download/restart sequence (agonizing process but did lead me to the Bad Guy Here)
Forth: Did a bit of research about the so called TPM and how it works just for my intellectual satisfaction
Finally: I advice everyone how is going to purchase a new machine to check the drivers compatibility with his ancient planning tool (P3) – remember there is always alternatives – It is also good to know that a lot of the free programs that come with your new machine really consumes a lot of space (30GB in my case) and consumes a lot of TSR (Resident memory) and slows down your machine – So unless you really need it, dump it
I Thought of sharing my experience with all of our PP members so next time a planner gets stuck with a WOWEXEC cause an access violation in NTVDM at 0x0???? (Wrote most of it to make it easier to goggle it in the future)
Again Dear Dieter thanks a million
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18 years 9 months
Member for18 years9 months
Submitted by Dieter Wambach on Fri, 2009-03-06 16:32
WOWEXEC and NTVDM.EXE are essential for all 16-bit applications. Does NTVDM.EXE exist on your PC? I found that some virus are known that replace this file to hide themselves.
Can you install it from i386? Do you have access to good pc experts or to the Microsoft hotline? Situation seems strange since both should be installed automatically with xp.
Sorry, Ive no idea why NTVDM.EXE wasnt properly installed.
Did you check your access rights? P3 I know from XP: Install and it works. Your error messages seem to result from a not possible or a lost connection. It should work under vista 32bit without problems.
Dear Dieter Thank you for your attempt to help me , If you read my Post you will see that the problem appears in both Vista and XP (Only in XP it is a sudden shutdown of the system without any error messages)
And am using the machine with teh 32bit architecture , as you know Windows Vista Ultimate is 64 Bit, Windows XP Ultimate is 64 Bit but I am using only Vista Buisness 32 Bit and XP Pro 32 Bit - Both Generated Errors
But You gave me an Idea t try to fix Btrieve or So as the Error Happens only at Filters and Their Particulars
Any Other PP have any Ideas
PS: As for Mr Charlie Orbe:
I will keep this 1500Euro Machine and Will not Compromsie on P3 and I think PP Memebers will help me out sooner than years Please try to be more constructive on you help
Thank you all
Member for
18 years 9 months
Member for18 years9 months
Submitted by Dieter Wambach on Fri, 2009-03-06 02:32
Up to no I tried to keep Vista at biggest distance. As far as I remember, Vista Professional is a 64bit version. This doesnt support "antique" 16-bit applications as btrieve - the database behind P3.
But you have Windows xp. Install it and P3 will work.
P5 uses SQL-server 2000 which isnt supported by Vista. P6 would be required.
Good luck!
Dieter
Member for
20 years 3 months
Member for20 years4 months
Submitted by Charleston-Jos… on Fri, 2009-03-06 00:43
Member for
16 years 8 monthsRE: Error In Primavera P3 3.1 on Sony Vaio Machines
Dear Dieter
It was a virgin computer : Those come with the CD and install them selves whether you choose to or not (in Vista) but in XP you have the choice
Thanks
Member for
18 years 9 monthsRE: Error In Primavera P3 3.1 on Sony Vaio Machines
Dear Kafo
Thanks for the explanation. Sorry I was misleaded. In your first post you mentioned a new installed "virgin" pc. So I assumed that you didnt install that stuff.
Good luck with your projects!
Dieter
Member for
16 years 8 monthsRE: Error In Primavera P3 3.1 on Sony Vaio Machines
Dear Dieter
Thank you so much for your continuous support
The problem is solved ... Here is how
Sony Vaio and The Likes of Fancy Laptops Have a great amount of Fancy Software that they bundle with their machines for free Those are usually called in present tech. forums as "Bloatware" or "Carpware" or even "Crapware :)" - Those Software had been responsible for so many problems in Vaios but not this one , However another interesting fact was ;
Also some fancy machines feature extra security measures Like Fingerprint readers (wasnt the problem) and TPM (Total Protection Management) Chipset that interrupts both the Bios and Windows To provide almost invincible machine to hijackers – Now this little midget was using Btrieve module access to DOS database (WOWEXEC and NTVDM) and hence the conflict with Filters in Primavera P3 , P3.3 & P3e & P4 (Tested them all)
I found this by trial and error
First: I installed XP with no drivers at all
Second: Installed Primavera
Third: Started Installing the Drivers one by one and testing P3 after each download/restart sequence (agonizing process but did lead me to the Bad Guy Here)
Forth: Did a bit of research about the so called TPM and how it works just for my intellectual satisfaction
Finally: I advice everyone how is going to purchase a new machine to check the drivers compatibility with his ancient planning tool (P3) – remember there is always alternatives – It is also good to know that a lot of the free programs that come with your new machine really consumes a lot of space (30GB in my case) and consumes a lot of TSR (Resident memory) and slows down your machine – So unless you really need it, dump it
I Thought of sharing my experience with all of our PP members so next time a planner gets stuck with a WOWEXEC cause an access violation in NTVDM at 0x0???? (Wrote most of it to make it easier to goggle it in the future)
Again Dear Dieter thanks a million
Member for
18 years 9 monthsRE: Error In Primavera P3 3.1 on Sony Vaio Machines
Kafo
WOWEXEC and NTVDM.EXE are essential for all 16-bit applications. Does NTVDM.EXE exist on your PC? I found that some virus are known that replace this file to hide themselves.
Can you install it from i386? Do you have access to good pc experts or to the Microsoft hotline? Situation seems strange since both should be installed automatically with xp.
Sorry, Ive no idea why NTVDM.EXE wasnt properly installed.
Regards
Dieter
Member for
16 years 8 monthsRE: Error In Primavera P3 3.1 on Sony Vaio Machines
Dear Dieter
Thank you for your continous help
Can you please advise me on what connection is Primavera P3.1 is trying to make ?
i know that P3.1 doesnt need an internet connection or anything of the sort
Thanking you all for your help
Member for
18 years 9 monthsRE: Error In Primavera P3 3.1 on Sony Vaio Machines
Kafo
Did you check your access rights? P3 I know from XP: Install and it works. Your error messages seem to result from a not possible or a lost connection. It should work under vista 32bit without problems.
Good luck!
Dieter
Member for
16 years 8 monthsRE: Error In Primavera P3 3.1 on Sony Vaio Machines
Dear Dieter Thank you for your attempt to help me , If you read my Post you will see that the problem appears in both Vista and XP (Only in XP it is a sudden shutdown of the system without any error messages)
And am using the machine with teh 32bit architecture , as you know Windows Vista Ultimate is 64 Bit, Windows XP Ultimate is 64 Bit but I am using only Vista Buisness 32 Bit and XP Pro 32 Bit - Both Generated Errors
But You gave me an Idea t try to fix Btrieve or So as the Error Happens only at Filters and Their Particulars
Any Other PP have any Ideas
PS: As for Mr Charlie Orbe:
I will keep this 1500Euro Machine and Will not Compromsie on P3 and I think PP Memebers will help me out sooner than years Please try to be more constructive on you help
Thank you all
Member for
18 years 9 monthsRE: Error In Primavera P3 3.1 on Sony Vaio Machines
Charly
Why so pessimistic?
Kafo
Up to no I tried to keep Vista at biggest distance. As far as I remember, Vista Professional is a 64bit version. This doesnt support "antique" 16-bit applications as btrieve - the database behind P3.
But you have Windows xp. Install it and P3 will work.
P5 uses SQL-server 2000 which isnt supported by Vista. P6 would be required.
Good luck!
Dieter
Member for
20 years 3 monthsRE: Error In Primavera P3 3.1 on Sony Vaio Machines
You have three choices:
1. throw the pc and buy a cheaper one using xp operating system
2. throw the P3 ver 3.1 and get P5 or P6
3. wait for the other PP member to share their experience and get whatever you can from their experience. It may take days, weeks, months or years.
Cheers
Happy Planning and Scheduling