Before P3 I had used MSP and initially I thought MSP was so much better as P3 was so old and didnt have some basic features. Much later I had to plan my p[roject in MSP. Then I realised I had used MSP for creating plans and not for monthly updates. I still find MSP difficult to use for basic monthly updates. I prefer P3.1 by a mile.
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Submitted by Vladimir Liberzon on Sat, 2007-05-12 08:11
thank you for your special interest to Spider Project. I visited the site and found that there are 4 our users that participated in the survey, so your information is not quite correct. For me it is very interesting information because vast majority of our users do not speak English and I did not expect that they know about PEO and visit its site.
Thank you once more and Best Regards,
Vladimir
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Submitted by Hemanth Kumar on Sat, 2007-05-12 06:59
Several years ago, when I was asked this question of comparison between MSProject and P3, I had said that it is like comparing a car with a train. They are not made for the same purpose at all. MSP is for general use, a further step to Taks in the Microsoft Outlook. Not much of planning or CPM knowledge required. In fact more you know about planning, CPM, earned value etc more you will get repelled from MSP and start going to P3.
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Submitted by Kutluhan ERGIN on Fri, 2007-05-11 11:29
These tools will not do the planning for you. In the same way that a spreadsheet skill does not make you into an accountant or a word processor into a world famous author
User friendliness is only one out of 20-30 requirements
for "good" planning software.
Other question syou need to ask are :-
Number one !!
Does it calculate the critical path correctly ??
There is still debate about this and wether MSP gives enough modelling flexibility eg assigning calendars to lags etc etc
Does it calculate costs correctly ?
Does it give me the flexibility for reporting etc etc etc etc
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Submitted by Vladimir Liberzon on Sun, 2006-04-16 01:00
from your post one can conclude that MS Project is best fit for YOUR requirements. If somebody has different requirements he or she may come to other conclusions. From my point of view both programs have limited functionality. We estimate any software against our needs.
Actually the matter simply , the MSP because it is one of the Microsoft productions and due to the widening usage of the Microsoft Products, people which are entering easily to the MSP and use it , are more than the professionals who are using MSP, therefore the majority of the MSPs users they are not professionals and at same time the users of Primavera they are professionals ( should have good knowledge on the Planning Field , to use Primavera ) , and as a results to that , the outputs of Primaveras users , more useful than the outputs of the other programs’ users , but we have to recognize that Ms Project the best and most powerful programs for the planning , in terms a philosophic and flexibility. This my opinion as a senior planner working with both programs .
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Submitted by Vladimir Liberzon on Thu, 2006-03-16 05:56
Yes, the Software alone does not make the final product good. But the Software can help to make the final product good if it has necessary features. Some things (like resource leveling for large project, or quantitative risk analysis) cannot be done manually. Good software can save a lot of time and money for its users suggesting optimised solutions.
Well it has never been the Software that makes the final product good, as the saying goes An Expensive software in the the hands of an Idiot will be a GIGO extract
Yes MSP is very user friendly as compared to primavera ver 3.1 .But, the latest version Primavera ver. 5 has all the good qualities of MSP and P3.1 merged together.
Regards,
Suraj
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Submitted by Charleston-Jos… on Sun, 2006-01-08 03:37
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19 years 5 monthsRE: MS Project vs Primavera
Before P3 I had used MSP and initially I thought MSP was so much better as P3 was so old and didnt have some basic features. Much later I had to plan my p[roject in MSP. Then I realised I had used MSP for creating plans and not for monthly updates. I still find MSP difficult to use for basic monthly updates. I prefer P3.1 by a mile.
Member for
24 years 9 monthsRE: MS Project vs Primavera
Dear Hemanth,
thank you for your special interest to Spider Project. I visited the site and found that there are 4 our users that participated in the survey, so your information is not quite correct. For me it is very interesting information because vast majority of our users do not speak English and I did not expect that they know about PEO and visit its site.
Thank you once more and Best Regards,
Vladimir
Member for
23 yearsRE: MS Project vs Primavera
Dear Friend
Visit Planning Engineers Organisation
They Have Usage Statics
In That You Can See
In Global Usage MSP is Far Behind Primavera
I Uses Primavera, For 90% Of My Projects and Rest MSP
Spider Project =Nil
Thanks
Member for
20 yearsRE: MS Project vs Primavera
Best software? Depends on client requirements, organization desires, budgeted costs for softwares etc.
Regards.
Member for
20 years 8 monthsRE: MS Project vs Primavera
Several years ago, when I was asked this question of comparison between MSProject and P3, I had said that it is like comparing a car with a train. They are not made for the same purpose at all. MSP is for general use, a further step to Taks in the Microsoft Outlook. Not much of planning or CPM knowledge required. In fact more you know about planning, CPM, earned value etc more you will get repelled from MSP and start going to P3.
Member for
19 years 7 monthsRE: MS Project vs Primavera
According to my experions, in MS Project you can have 99999 entry as a task on the other hand in P3 you can have many more then MS Project.
Member for
21 years 8 monthsRE: MS Project vs Primavera
These tools will not do the planning for you. In the same way that a spreadsheet skill does not make you into an accountant or a word processor into a world famous author
User friendliness is only one out of 20-30 requirements
for "good" planning software.
Other question syou need to ask are :-
Number one !!
Does it calculate the critical path correctly ??
There is still debate about this and wether MSP gives enough modelling flexibility eg assigning calendars to lags etc etc
Does it calculate costs correctly ?
Does it give me the flexibility for reporting etc etc etc etc
Member for
24 years 9 monthsRE: MS Project vs Primavera
Halim,
from your post one can conclude that MS Project is best fit for YOUR requirements. If somebody has different requirements he or she may come to other conclusions. From my point of view both programs have limited functionality. We estimate any software against our needs.
Regards,
Vladimir
Member for
19 years 6 monthsRE: MS Project vs Primavera
Actually the matter simply , the MSP because it is one of the Microsoft productions and due to the widening usage of the Microsoft Products, people which are entering easily to the MSP and use it , are more than the professionals who are using MSP, therefore the majority of the MSPs users they are not professionals and at same time the users of Primavera they are professionals ( should have good knowledge on the Planning Field , to use Primavera ) , and as a results to that , the outputs of Primaveras users , more useful than the outputs of the other programs’ users , but we have to recognize that Ms Project the best and most powerful programs for the planning , in terms a philosophic and flexibility. This my opinion as a senior planner working with both programs .
Member for
24 years 9 monthsRE: MS Project vs Primavera
Yes, the Software alone does not make the final product good. But the Software can help to make the final product good if it has necessary features. Some things (like resource leveling for large project, or quantitative risk analysis) cannot be done manually. Good software can save a lot of time and money for its users suggesting optimised solutions.
Cheers!
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21 years 3 monthsRE: MS Project vs Primavera
Well it has never been the Software that makes the final product good, as the saying goes An Expensive software in the the hands of an Idiot will be a GIGO extract
The person (aka Planner)m akes the product.
Cheers!
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21 years 5 monthsRE: MS Project vs Primavera
Hi Norzul!
Yes MSP is very user friendly as compared to primavera ver 3.1 .But, the latest version Primavera ver. 5 has all the good qualities of MSP and P3.1 merged together.
Regards,
Suraj
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20 years 3 monthsRE: MS Project vs Primavera
Hello Norzul,
A lot of previous thread has tackled this question.
If you have time you can always look back at the previous thread. Generally, i can say MSP receive a big trashing in PP.
Primavera P3 ver 3.1 is simply the best.
Cheers
Charlie