I totally agree with you. By far, Im happy with XP. Although I havent tried Vista, its priority level is on "wishlist". But I cant do without Primavera. So I dont mind sticking with XP.
Jorge
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Submitted by Michel Molenaar on Wed, 2007-03-14 03:54
I believe Primavera Systems, Inc. has currently been far to busy with its upcoming release (Version 6.0) to start the support for version 5.0 on Vista.
Since the problem is caused by the database-driver used by Primavera it would mean that the entire application has to be retested on Vista (this is really timeconsuming). Hence thats why its currently not supported.
Best regards
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Submitted by Iftikhar Awan P.Eng. on Mon, 2007-03-12 10:15
Thank you Ronald and Michel for discussing the issue. That clarified a lot of things for many users of P5.
Michel, if you were able to install P5 on a Vista OS, prabably someone from Primavera should try to do the same and give the users a recognized solution.
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Submitted by Michel Molenaar on Fri, 2007-03-09 18:37
I did some testing earlier today and its indeed not possible (neither officially supported) to install Primavera PM-client 5.0 on a Vista installation.
However. The problem is not directly caused by the Primavera software itself, but the Borland DBExpress engine which Primavera uses. I personally got Primavera 5.0 to work on Vista.
It could be that Primavera Systems, Inc. will release a Service Pack for version 5.0 enabling Vista support, however this is unlikely. The reason behind this is that companies who use larger network installation of Primavera (against for instance Oracle), would not upgrade to Vista within the next 2 years (in general).
Within these 2 years, version 6.0 will be the new standard and 5.0 would be forgotten.
PS : For the people who are going to ask questions regarding the installation I did: I am not going to answer any questions, since it is not officially supported by Primavera Systems, Inc. Thus, should not be done.
Best regards.
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Submitted by Ronald Winter on Wed, 2007-03-07 10:15
I was confused by this confusion about such a pertinent topic and so I checked the Primavera website knowledgebase. According to Primavera, don’t try to use P5 on a Windows Vista computer. Primavera is pledging to have the next version (P6) be compatible with Vista but that is not slated to occur until late summer 2007. Only later will Primavera consider making the service patch to enable P5 users to use Vista.
(Think about it, if you have a maintenance agreement with Primavera, then you will want the P6 for free instead of the patch for P5. If you don’t have a current maintenance agreement, then you won’t be able to obtain the P5 patch anyhow.)
The reason for the problem took more digging. Currently P5 supports MS SQL 2000 and MSDE (the free version of MS SQL 2000.) If you have a stand-alone computer, then you use MSDE by default.
Vista does not and will not support MS SQL 2000 or MSDE. It generates errors when you try to use it. This is because Microsoft has released MS SQL 2005 and MS SQL 2000 Express (Express being the free version much like MSDE was.) Vista is designed to run using MS SQL 2005.
Until Primavera makes a version of software that installs and runs on MS SQL 2000 Express, you cannot run P5 or any other of the enterprise versions. Ergo, P6 will be using MS SQL 2000 Express as its default database server.
This does leave the question of whether Oracle users of P5 can run Vista, but that was not mentioned anywhere.
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Submitted by Iftikhar Awan P.Eng. on Mon, 2007-03-05 16:27
I hope that someone with IT background would comment on the problem. Probably it has to do something with SQL server installation in Windows Vista. Anyone?
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Submitted by mimoune djouallah on Sun, 2007-03-04 06:22
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22 years 4 monthsRE: Installing Primavera 5.0 with Windows Vista OS
Dear Michel,
I totally agree with you. By far, Im happy with XP. Although I havent tried Vista, its priority level is on "wishlist". But I cant do without Primavera. So I dont mind sticking with XP.
Jorge
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21 years 4 monthsRE: Installing Primavera 5.0 with Windows Vista OS
Dear Jorge,
I believe Primavera Systems, Inc. has currently been far to busy with its upcoming release (Version 6.0) to start the support for version 5.0 on Vista.
Since the problem is caused by the database-driver used by Primavera it would mean that the entire application has to be retested on Vista (this is really timeconsuming). Hence thats why its currently not supported.
Best regards
Member for
19 years 5 monthsRE: Installing Primavera 5.0 with Windows Vista OS
I understand Jorge. I am so happy myself that I have a desktop with XP and a laptop with Vista...
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22 years 4 monthsRE: Installing Primavera 5.0 with Windows Vista OS
Thank God I didnt upgrade to Vista although doing so wouldnt have entailed any additional cost for me since I bought the notebook last OCT06.
Its just not worth the trade off being able to use Vista but not Primavera.
Jorge
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19 years 5 monthsRE: Installing Primavera 5.0 with Windows Vista OS
Thank you Ronald and Michel for discussing the issue. That clarified a lot of things for many users of P5.
Michel, if you were able to install P5 on a Vista OS, prabably someone from Primavera should try to do the same and give the users a recognized solution.
Member for
21 years 4 monthsRE: Installing Primavera 5.0 with Windows Vista OS
I did some testing earlier today and its indeed not possible (neither officially supported) to install Primavera PM-client 5.0 on a Vista installation.
However. The problem is not directly caused by the Primavera software itself, but the Borland DBExpress engine which Primavera uses. I personally got Primavera 5.0 to work on Vista.
It could be that Primavera Systems, Inc. will release a Service Pack for version 5.0 enabling Vista support, however this is unlikely. The reason behind this is that companies who use larger network installation of Primavera (against for instance Oracle), would not upgrade to Vista within the next 2 years (in general).
Within these 2 years, version 6.0 will be the new standard and 5.0 would be forgotten.
PS : For the people who are going to ask questions regarding the installation I did: I am not going to answer any questions, since it is not officially supported by Primavera Systems, Inc. Thus, should not be done.
Best regards.
Member for
22 years 10 monthsRE: Installing Primavera 5.0 with Windows Vista OS
I was confused by this confusion about such a pertinent topic and so I checked the Primavera website knowledgebase. According to Primavera, don’t try to use P5 on a Windows Vista computer. Primavera is pledging to have the next version (P6) be compatible with Vista but that is not slated to occur until late summer 2007. Only later will Primavera consider making the service patch to enable P5 users to use Vista.
(Think about it, if you have a maintenance agreement with Primavera, then you will want the P6 for free instead of the patch for P5. If you don’t have a current maintenance agreement, then you won’t be able to obtain the P5 patch anyhow.)
The reason for the problem took more digging. Currently P5 supports MS SQL 2000 and MSDE (the free version of MS SQL 2000.) If you have a stand-alone computer, then you use MSDE by default.
Vista does not and will not support MS SQL 2000 or MSDE. It generates errors when you try to use it. This is because Microsoft has released MS SQL 2005 and MS SQL 2000 Express (Express being the free version much like MSDE was.) Vista is designed to run using MS SQL 2005.
Until Primavera makes a version of software that installs and runs on MS SQL 2000 Express, you cannot run P5 or any other of the enterprise versions. Ergo, P6 will be using MS SQL 2000 Express as its default database server.
This does leave the question of whether Oracle users of P5 can run Vista, but that was not mentioned anywhere.
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19 years 5 monthsRE: Installing Primavera 5.0 with Windows Vista OS
Thanks for clarifying Dieter. Thats good news.
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18 years 9 monthsRE: Installing Primavera 5.0 with Windows Vista OS
Yes, it is
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20 yearsRE: Installing Primavera 5.0 with Windows Vista OS
This SP is from Primavera, right?
Regards.
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19 years 5 monthsRE: Installing Primavera 5.0 with Windows Vista OS
Thanks Dieter. Vista SP1 is not going to be available until second half of 2007. So, a long wait ahead.
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18 years 9 monthsRE: Installing Primavera 5.0 with Windows Vista OS
As far as I know, Primavera Ver. 5 does not work under vista. But they announced a service pack.
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19 years 5 monthsRE: Installing Primavera 5.0 with Windows Vista OS
I hope that someone with IT background would comment on the problem. Probably it has to do something with SQL server installation in Windows Vista. Anyone?
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19 yearsRE: Installing Primavera 5.0 with Windows Vista OS
yet another reason to upgrade to p6 ( when its available)
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19 years 7 monthsRE: Installing Primavera 5.0 with Windows Vista OS
me, with vista ultimate and enterprise editions.
didnt work at all.