In there Ron Winter sets out the checks he carries out on baselines ... he does then pitch his own software for automating the process, but the guide does make interesting reading nonetheless. It is not specifically aimed at EPC, FEED or any other specific approach but is instead a general baseline check.
You say that they won’t release their criteria, only give a score. Interesting aproach, then they don’t have to justify their results. How can you improve if all you are told is that you are bad? That’s rubbish.
And Charlie is right, if you sent it to them in B+W then shame on you :P
As for activity count. Where I am we estimate one activity per man-shift for maintenance turnarounds. New build may be different, I dont know. Depends on the project and how youll be updating it / how much control you need.
General received wisdom is that no activity should last longer than 2 reporting periods. We report daily, general building contracts tend to report monthly, smaller ones weekly, so it depends. The point is not to have any single activity so big that you cant tell whats going on inside it.
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Submitted by Oliver Melling on Thu, 2008-02-14 07:16
Sounds like a typical assessor company, trying to get a planning contract out of simple assessment job. I would always ask to see their report (full version) and criteria on what they based their report etc. If these are not forth coming then I would consider the conclusion is a put up job and should be treated with the contempt it deserves.
As for getting a plan together to do FEED, as long as it covers the general scope of the planned work within the required time frame, its usually OK by me. The detail along with the vast numbers of activities will hopefully follow at the Detail Engineeing phase.
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18 years 2 monthsRE: How would you judge the Quality of EPC Schedule?
Lookup;
http://www.ronwinterconsulting.com/rabaseline.html
In there Ron Winter sets out the checks he carries out on baselines ... he does then pitch his own software for automating the process, but the guide does make interesting reading nonetheless. It is not specifically aimed at EPC, FEED or any other specific approach but is instead a general baseline check.
You say that they won’t release their criteria, only give a score. Interesting aproach, then they don’t have to justify their results. How can you improve if all you are told is that you are bad? That’s rubbish.
And Charlie is right, if you sent it to them in B+W then shame on you :P
As for activity count. Where I am we estimate one activity per man-shift for maintenance turnarounds. New build may be different, I dont know. Depends on the project and how youll be updating it / how much control you need.
General received wisdom is that no activity should last longer than 2 reporting periods. We report daily, general building contracts tend to report monthly, smaller ones weekly, so it depends. The point is not to have any single activity so big that you cant tell whats going on inside it.
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18 years 6 monthsRE: How would you judge the Quality of EPC Schedule?
Charlie,
I like purple (Royal blood) and gold (Money) EPC schedules.
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18 yearsRE: How would you judge the Quality of EPC Schedule?
Charleston,
i see you got jokes......anyways thanks for the info.
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20 years 3 monthsRE: How would you judge the Quality of EPC Schedule?
it really depends on which country you worked.
sometimes the color of the P3 schedule may connote high quality.
Take for example so and so country. Their nationalities prefer to use purple colors (royal blood) or yellow
The client will automatically approved thinking the color give a good EPC schedule.
But of course, the content is rubbish
And the name of the Country is ????????
Guess
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20 years 3 monthsRE: How would you judge the Quality of EPC Schedule?
ladi boy,
what are you doing in Texas in the oil and gas industry.
FEED stand for :Front End Engineering Design
Only in the oil and gas industry this term found.
In the building industry it is called .....
differently
Cheers
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18 yearsRE: How would you judge the Quality of EPC Schedule?
What is FEED?
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19 years 5 monthsRE: How would you judge the Quality of EPC Schedule?
John/Peter
May I be presumptious and assume that the plan at the FEED stage is equivalent to the Tender Programme.
Thanks for your enlightenment.
James.
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21 years 1 monthRE: How would you judge the Quality of EPC Schedule?
Hi
Sounds like a typical assessor company, trying to get a planning contract out of simple assessment job. I would always ask to see their report (full version) and criteria on what they based their report etc. If these are not forth coming then I would consider the conclusion is a put up job and should be treated with the contempt it deserves.
As for getting a plan together to do FEED, as long as it covers the general scope of the planned work within the required time frame, its usually OK by me. The detail along with the vast numbers of activities will hopefully follow at the Detail Engineeing phase.
Regards
John