Once the programme is resource loaded, practically speaking, the programme has no float. Because, the moment you try to use the float, the allocation of resource will change from what was there in the target. Any variation from the target is a Variation and can become a claim. Apart from a few real physical relationship (like concrete pouring after formwork), quite a lot of other links in the programme are resource links (like this crew goes to that work once it is complete).
Its really difficult to do such kind of assessment.
If the client caused a critical delay ( a delay on critical path as shown on the schedule approved by client), the contractor has the right to get EOT.
the duration of a task depends on resource/productivity...,12 days or 15 days which is correct? theres no answer.
if the client apporved this 15days duration, then later he has no right to ask contractor to shorten the duration for free.
If the client caused a delay on no-critical task, and make critical or near critical, the contractor still have the change for EOT. (to keep the original critical path on schedule, the contractor need more resource,otherwise the schedule will be delayed). But its difficult to prove it, unless the contractor has a good schedule(clear logic, full resource loaded) and detail actual record. Generally the con tractor will not win.
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Submitted by Sooraj G Othayoth on Tue, 2006-06-20 07:45
If nigels version of undeclared float is truem, then can the client deny EOT to the contractor for any delay claim (client induced)citing that the contractor could have used the undeclared float available to mitigate the same.
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Submitted by Sooraj G Othayoth on Tue, 2006-06-20 07:27
I understand the term to mean hidden float. This is where the planner hides the float by, say, making a 12 day activity, 15 days duration, thereby adding in 3 days float.
It can also be added in by the use of lags, so that the float appears to disappear, i.e. there is no free time between an activity finishing and the successor starting due to the lag. In reality, there may be no lag and the lag shown can be used by the contractor as float.
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20 years 8 monthsRE: Undeclared float
Zhang,
Once the programme is resource loaded, practically speaking, the programme has no float. Because, the moment you try to use the float, the allocation of resource will change from what was there in the target. Any variation from the target is a Variation and can become a claim. Apart from a few real physical relationship (like concrete pouring after formwork), quite a lot of other links in the programme are resource links (like this crew goes to that work once it is complete).
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20 years 1 monthRE: Undeclared float
Zhang
I hide float all the time
You have to really interogate the programme to find it.
Often I am only asked for a hard copy making interogation impossible so a good planner will win win win for the contractor
Oscar
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20 years 6 monthsRE: Undeclared float
Its really difficult to do such kind of assessment.
If the client caused a critical delay ( a delay on critical path as shown on the schedule approved by client), the contractor has the right to get EOT.
the duration of a task depends on resource/productivity...,12 days or 15 days which is correct? theres no answer.
if the client apporved this 15days duration, then later he has no right to ask contractor to shorten the duration for free.
If the client caused a delay on no-critical task, and make critical or near critical, the contractor still have the change for EOT. (to keep the original critical path on schedule, the contractor need more resource,otherwise the schedule will be delayed). But its difficult to prove it, unless the contractor has a good schedule(clear logic, full resource loaded) and detail actual record. Generally the con tractor will not win.
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20 years 10 monthsRE: Undeclared float
hi all,
If nigels version of undeclared float is truem, then can the client deny EOT to the contractor for any delay claim (client induced)citing that the contractor could have used the undeclared float available to mitigate the same.
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20 years 10 monthsRE: Undeclared float
thanks nigel, that was helpful.
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19 years 5 monthsRE: Undeclared float
Sooraj
I understand the term to mean hidden float. This is where the planner hides the float by, say, making a 12 day activity, 15 days duration, thereby adding in 3 days float.
It can also be added in by the use of lags, so that the float appears to disappear, i.e. there is no free time between an activity finishing and the successor starting due to the lag. In reality, there may be no lag and the lag shown can be used by the contractor as float.
Anyone got any more ideas?
Hope this helps
Nige