You are partially right. Some industrial projects have very less value of Civil works compared to overall project value. In such cases BOQ is not detailed down to formwork, rebar and concrete.
But quantities are always available. How else did you quote for the project? In any case, you have "Good for construction" drawings which should be used for QTO. This is QS job as charles said.
As a last resort, if you really dont get quantities in time, but still want to measure Progress, you can set weightage points. This is purely based on experience.
I do it for progressing Procurement activities.
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Submitted by Charleston-Jos… on Fri, 2005-11-18 09:36
That is really a problem because you need to have the estimated quantities per items in your activities while the BOQ quantities are build-up.
There is no short cut. You have to do it the engineering way or you can drag the quantity surveyor and let him do the quantity take off since that is his job.
Also in updating progress, you need to get the cooperation of project QS to get the actual quantity in place.
Cheers,
Charlie
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Submitted by MUHAMMAD IQBAL on Fri, 2005-11-18 07:28
pretty basic thing is to go by your Bill of Quantities. or identigy the total scope of work from drawings and measure actual against that. basic as i said.
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What is the full form of PMS, what is this. Who is having this. I am also eager in this matter.
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20 years 2 monthsRE: Physical Progress Measurement System
Hi
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Neeraj & Charlie
I do respect your responses and ideas
your approach is great when you are working on small to medium value project where you are only Schedule controlling.
i was concern in EVM
where cost and time are to be controled so for such projects we are sure need a formal PMS Documents and it also depends how big is the organization.
I was only intrested if any body is working on PMS he may please send me the PMS
%WT is not great idea for Heavy Construction work like Dams ,Barrges
thanks
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Hi Muhamad,
You are partially right. Some industrial projects have very less value of Civil works compared to overall project value. In such cases BOQ is not detailed down to formwork, rebar and concrete.
But quantities are always available. How else did you quote for the project? In any case, you have "Good for construction" drawings which should be used for QTO. This is QS job as charles said.
As a last resort, if you really dont get quantities in time, but still want to measure Progress, you can set weightage points. This is purely based on experience.
I do it for progressing Procurement activities.
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20 years 3 monthsRE: Physical Progress Measurement System
Hello,
That is really a problem because you need to have the estimated quantities per items in your activities while the BOQ quantities are build-up.
There is no short cut. You have to do it the engineering way or you can drag the quantity surveyor and let him do the quantity take off since that is his job.
Also in updating progress, you need to get the cooperation of project QS to get the actual quantity in place.
Cheers,
Charlie
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20 years 2 monthsRE: Physical Progress Measurement System
Hi
Neeraj
My dear sir
in BOQ there are only pay item but while executing some task there are some of activities that normally are not present in BOQ for this we need PMS
Example
"Lay of Grade Beam Concrete"
in BOQ only available Item is "concrete"
before the concrete there are
activity like
Layout marking.
Fabrication of Formwork
Fabrication of Steel bar/Rebars
Epoxy coating to Rebars
Fixing of Rebars
Installation of Forms
and then Pouring of Concrete(can be found in BOQ)
Removal of Forms
Sparying of Curing Compound
so how you will monitor other activities
this is one example
but if go for big project like
Barrage ,Dam. Air Port or some High way ,Cross Country Pipe line You should have to develop PMS for monitoring
i hope u got my point
if any body can have i will appreciate
have fun
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22 years 3 monthsRE: Physical Progress Measurement System
This would easily fill a book.
pretty basic thing is to go by your Bill of Quantities. or identigy the total scope of work from drawings and measure actual against that. basic as i said.