The point is that if you are a planner you know what you require from your tools. I am very apprehensive in what I say here, as I have had a good look at V5, and believe it may be able to do the job, but I have certain problems with it as they have changed terminology. Such as they now refer to barcharts as Ghant chart, which was the way I was taught, and they have moved away from Pert to activity networks. I think the people ruunning the projects of writing these new programs are not planners, but only have a vague idea of it, therefore the constant changes in terminology. For example a thing only has one name, that you were taught, so float does not all of a sudden become slack, as MSP tried.
What is the point in this, they obviously do not understand what they are doing, or, it is a marketing excercise. Whichever, they are missing the point. The fact is we had a tool that worked very well, and "they" decided, that for reasons of their own, that it is devoid, and that we need something new, and, it is for this reason that I have to go on a computor course for the first time in my life, as I cannot understand their conviluted thinking. By trying to give us this amazing tool, they have done us badly, the rise and the falll of the roman empire
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Submitted by Andy McLean-Reid on Wed, 2005-10-19 03:28
My second day, found out some more good stuff, and how to work it,it has some potential. But, still have some problems with structuring, and the baselines
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Submitted by Philip Jonker on Mon, 2005-10-17 15:39
My first day on version 5, and I found out the export and import functions work, via Excel, good news, howevever I had a bit of a problem with setting base dates, which I hope to solve
Will let you know the saga as I progress
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Philip
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Submitted by Andy McLean-Reid on Mon, 2005-10-17 04:47
I am considering P5 for my team, please let me know how you get on.
We currently run 3.1 due to customer requirements. However, I like new toys so want to reccomend this upgrade. If it turns out to be more trouble than its worth, though, Ill happily give it a swerve.
I like the sound of the Excel interface. It is compatible with P3, I understand, but is it downwards compatible, ie: can I open a project in P3 once it has been worked on in P5?
There is a free 90 day trial in any case, and they sit on different platforms so can be run in conjuction with each other.
Still, Id really appreciate some first hand experience.
Thanks
Andy
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Submitted by Philip Jonker on Fri, 2005-10-14 14:57
Version 5, is basically called primavera v5, it is a combination of some of the good points of v 4 ec and p3 v3.1.
the major factor is that it combines potential of v4.1ec with some of the better points of v3 3.1 in that you are able to import excel files, obviously you need the templates of the data base formats i.e., headings etc. This allows you the freedom to work within excel and create import as long as you have templates. This is a major step forward. The thinking within the primavera group is improving. Joy to all.
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Submitted by Sukumaran Suba… on Thu, 2005-10-13 23:58
We are about to embark into the realms of version 5 and am meeting with the primavera expert tomorrow. Keep this thread going to enlighten us of the bugs, hopefully, in a few weeks time, I will be able to give good feeedback.
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iluted Hi Andy,
The point is that if you are a planner you know what you require from your tools. I am very apprehensive in what I say here, as I have had a good look at V5, and believe it may be able to do the job, but I have certain problems with it as they have changed terminology. Such as they now refer to barcharts as Ghant chart, which was the way I was taught, and they have moved away from Pert to activity networks. I think the people ruunning the projects of writing these new programs are not planners, but only have a vague idea of it, therefore the constant changes in terminology. For example a thing only has one name, that you were taught, so float does not all of a sudden become slack, as MSP tried.
What is the point in this, they obviously do not understand what they are doing, or, it is a marketing excercise. Whichever, they are missing the point. The fact is we had a tool that worked very well, and "they" decided, that for reasons of their own, that it is devoid, and that we need something new, and, it is for this reason that I have to go on a computor course for the first time in my life, as I cannot understand their conviluted thinking. By trying to give us this amazing tool, they have done us badly, the rise and the falll of the roman empire
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Phillip
Thanks for the update.
Andy
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21 yearsRE: P3 Version 5
Hi Andy,
My second day, found out some more good stuff, and how to work it,it has some potential. But, still have some problems with structuring, and the baselines
Regards
Member for
21 yearsRE: P3 Version 5
Hi Andy,
My first day on version 5, and I found out the export and import functions work, via Excel, good news, howevever I had a bit of a problem with setting base dates, which I hope to solve
Will let you know the saga as I progress
Regards
Philip
Member for
20 yearsRE: P3 Version 5
Phillip
I am considering P5 for my team, please let me know how you get on.
We currently run 3.1 due to customer requirements. However, I like new toys so want to reccomend this upgrade. If it turns out to be more trouble than its worth, though, Ill happily give it a swerve.
I like the sound of the Excel interface. It is compatible with P3, I understand, but is it downwards compatible, ie: can I open a project in P3 once it has been worked on in P5?
There is a free 90 day trial in any case, and they sit on different platforms so can be run in conjuction with each other.
Still, Id really appreciate some first hand experience.
Thanks
Andy
Member for
21 yearsRE: P3 Version 5
Hi guys
Version 5, is basically called primavera v5, it is a combination of some of the good points of v 4 ec and p3 v3.1.
the major factor is that it combines potential of v4.1ec with some of the better points of v3 3.1 in that you are able to import excel files, obviously you need the templates of the data base formats i.e., headings etc. This allows you the freedom to work within excel and create import as long as you have templates. This is a major step forward. The thinking within the primavera group is improving. Joy to all.
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20 years 8 monthsRE: P3 Version 5
mktse / Mario,
Can we say that P5 dont recognise / read prx file.
To open the P3v3.1 in P5 we need to copy the project file as it is from the site and send to HQ to open it.
That means no backup or restore function in P5.
Regards.
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21 yearsRE: P3 Version 5
Hi guys and gals,
We are about to embark into the realms of version 5 and am meeting with the primavera expert tomorrow. Keep this thread going to enlighten us of the bugs, hopefully, in a few weeks time, I will be able to give good feeedback.
Regards
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23 years 8 monthsRE: P3 Version 5
I havent tried to import PRX, instead imnport .P3 directly and successful.
Please note "EVERYONE" with Read/Write access MUST be in the Access Right list. Otherwise, P5.0 machince need P3v3.1 install.
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20 years 8 monthsRE: P3 Version 5
Both are different softwares, using for scheduling.