I am afraid that the previous address works for registered users.
If it will not work then go to www.spiderproject.ru, select English, then select Spider Project to download Demo, or Publications for downloading papers and presentations.
Excuse me for the wrong address.
Best Regards,
Vladimir
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Submitted by Raja Izat Raja… on Thu, 2005-09-22 11:09
Hi Charlie,
thank you for your interest and yes, you can download Spider Project Demo version from http://www.spiderproject.ru/spider_e.php
Demo is full functional but can work only with 40 activities and does not include export/import to databases, MSP and Primavera. This Demo is used for teaching students by many Universities.
Try it, I will be grateful if you will inform me about your opinion. If you will think that it does not do something (even if it is not supported by any other PM software) then ask me and I will explain how it shall be done.
The real version can handle 15K project easily (and 150k too).
Best Regards,
Vladimir
Member for
20 years 3 months
Member for20 years4 months
Submitted by Charleston-Jos… on Thu, 2005-09-22 07:48
It is nice to hear from you. This post may not be relevance to the topic at hand, but this is very important to me.
I would like to know if the free software from Spider is available (it is now middle of September 2005) for download as what you stated in your previous thread.
Please dont delete this since others may be interested that there will be a free download of Spider Project Management Software.
Thanks,
Charlie
Member for
24 years 9 months
Member for24 years9 months
Submitted by Vladimir Liberzon on Thu, 2005-09-22 07:16
what are your requirements to the software to be used?
It shall be inexpensive, what else?
What parameters shall be controlled, the number of users, estimate of activity and resource quantities, costing requirements, report requirements, etc.?
If you need some useful advise then decribe the task.
Member for
20 years 3 months
Member for20 years4 months
Submitted by Charleston-Jos… on Thu, 2005-09-22 07:06
Yeah I knew Id get the P3 Planners jumping on my case.
Just to clear the air Ive been using P3 since 1988 the old Dos version, Probably a big portion of the planners on this web where still at school then, so I dont want to get into a debacle about P3.
Yes it the best but it is expensive and on this project they dont see the justification and not only that its probably going to never be used again after this project is built.
Yes we will be using it to do up to level 5 planning, how else can we build the project. Yes we will be importing and exporting from MSP to P3 and visa versa.
The client will use their own software that they are developing for shutdowns Etc. P3 doent want to help you if you dont take up the maintenance contract how does one explain that to the client. Therefore Im looking for other avenues, hopefully without attracting some smarty pants replies.
After all that is what this web site is for, not to see whos the smartest planner but to assist.
I hope I havent gone overboard, I guess my age is comming through.
Any constructive response welcomed
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24 years 9 months
Member for24 years9 months
Submitted by Vladimir Liberzon on Thu, 2005-09-22 04:28
define what you want from the software. Your needs define the choice. If you need something MS Project does not support then look at P3e, if you need something P3e does not support the look to Spider Project.
If it is not mentioned in the contract or ITB (instruction to bidders), I suggest you use P3 (or P3e/c). It is the universal software in planning/scheduling among Project Owners, Consultants and Contractors/Subcons.
You can visit www.primavera.com to find a dealer nearest your area & how much it will cost you.
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20 years 5 monthsRE: Is MSP better than MP or P3
Hi Edgar,
Whats up now.., I have to find more knowledge for my brain at least im not far behind from Hi Tech World cause im affraid loosing my dinner.
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20 years 3 monthsRE: Is MSP better than MP or P3
Hi there,
Raja, if you use spider, you will look like Spiderman....
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20 years 5 monthsRE: Is MSP better than MP or P3
Thanks Mr vladimir, "http://www.spiderproject.ru/enter.php?ver=prof&lang=eng" this address can be use.
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24 years 9 monthsRE: Is MSP better than MP or P3
Please try http://www.spiderproject.ru/enter.php?ver=prof&lang=eng
I am afraid that the previous address works for registered users.
If it will not work then go to www.spiderproject.ru, select English, then select Spider Project to download Demo, or Publications for downloading papers and presentations.
Excuse me for the wrong address.
Best Regards,
Vladimir
Member for
20 years 5 monthsRE: Is MSP better than MP or P3
uhhhh god mr valdimir, i did try to open "http://www.spiderproject.ru/spider_e.php" i could not understand. Do u have another address in english version.
Member for
24 years 9 monthsRE: Is MSP better than MP or P3
Hi Charlie,
thank you for your interest and yes, you can download Spider Project Demo version from http://www.spiderproject.ru/spider_e.php
Demo is full functional but can work only with 40 activities and does not include export/import to databases, MSP and Primavera. This Demo is used for teaching students by many Universities.
Try it, I will be grateful if you will inform me about your opinion. If you will think that it does not do something (even if it is not supported by any other PM software) then ask me and I will explain how it shall be done.
The real version can handle 15K project easily (and 150k too).
Best Regards,
Vladimir
Member for
20 years 3 monthsRE: Is MSP better than MP or P3
Hello Vladimir,
It is nice to hear from you. This post may not be relevance to the topic at hand, but this is very important to me.
I would like to know if the free software from Spider is available (it is now middle of September 2005) for download as what you stated in your previous thread.
Please dont delete this since others may be interested that there will be a free download of Spider Project Management Software.
Thanks,
Charlie
Member for
24 years 9 monthsRE: Is MSP better than MP or P3
Joel,
what are your requirements to the software to be used?
It shall be inexpensive, what else?
What parameters shall be controlled, the number of users, estimate of activity and resource quantities, costing requirements, report requirements, etc.?
If you need some useful advise then decribe the task.
Member for
20 years 3 monthsRE: Is MSP better than MP or P3
Hi Joel,
From your response, it is very clear where your heading.
I cant understand 2.3 Billion Project and P3 not worth an investment.
Anyway cheers,
Charlie
Member for
22 years 6 monthsRE: Is MSP better than MP or P3
Yeah I knew Id get the P3 Planners jumping on my case.
Just to clear the air Ive been using P3 since 1988 the old Dos version, Probably a big portion of the planners on this web where still at school then, so I dont want to get into a debacle about P3.
Yes it the best but it is expensive and on this project they dont see the justification and not only that its probably going to never be used again after this project is built.
Yes we will be using it to do up to level 5 planning, how else can we build the project. Yes we will be importing and exporting from MSP to P3 and visa versa.
The client will use their own software that they are developing for shutdowns Etc. P3 doent want to help you if you dont take up the maintenance contract how does one explain that to the client. Therefore Im looking for other avenues, hopefully without attracting some smarty pants replies.
After all that is what this web site is for, not to see whos the smartest planner but to assist.
I hope I havent gone overboard, I guess my age is comming through.
Any constructive response welcomed
Member for
24 years 9 monthsRE: Is MSP better than MP or P3
Joel,
define what you want from the software. Your needs define the choice. If you need something MS Project does not support then look at P3e, if you need something P3e does not support the look to Spider Project.
Member for
20 years 2 monthsRE: Is MSP better than MP or P3
Brod,
If it is not mentioned in the contract or ITB (instruction to bidders), I suggest you use P3 (or P3e/c). It is the universal software in planning/scheduling among Project Owners, Consultants and Contractors/Subcons.
You can visit www.primavera.com to find a dealer nearest your area & how much it will cost you.
Best Regards.