This is to confirm your statement. If our friend wants to use the case, he must study the complete case and use the anology accordingly. What I have stated is my own personal opinion in the matter.
With kind regards,
Samer
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Submitted by Andrew Flowerdew on Fri, 2010-04-09 11:37
Although I think the principle you state will still stand, (it’s nothing new, a fatally flawed analysis is a fatally flawed analysis - which may not be relied upon), I believe this case is subject to appeal and therefore you should be a little careful of quoting from it just yet.
Personally I think aspects of this case should have been dismissed due to the contractor failing to meet the burden of proof, (as would possibly have been the case in the USA), but I doubt that will be the decision of any appeal either.
So we wait and see!
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Submitted by Samer Zawaydeh on Fri, 2010-04-09 11:17
In deciding upon the criticality of the alleged delaying events, and therefore the entitlement to extension of time, the judge considered that the application of practicality and common-sense was more reliable than a flawed as-built critical path analysis."
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Submitted by Samer Zawaydeh on Fri, 2010-04-09 08:09
The theory of delay and studying its consequences is the same as the theory of the Critical Path Method. It did not change.
You need to determine the delay event, get it approved by the Engineer, and then impact the schedule. You study each delay event independently, then you study them all together.
You can form a WBS named delay event fragnet ,under this WBS you can create a schedule of delay events based on the chronological order[All delay events are tied together ].In that you can eliminate concurrent delay events if any
The number crushing has been done long time ago, so has the Excel sheet with a prioritised list of delay and initially only a delay analysis with the most driving delays, as you suggest, was also carried out. Time- and cost impact analyses have also been done long time ago for almost each and every claim. The Employer has now asked for all claims to be incorporated into one global time impact analysis (not cost).
Anyway, forget all about the actual project. The question was more related to the principles/theory of carrying out an impacted-as-planned analysis involving multiple delay events, not just one or a few.
If you want to show all the delay events together it is better to make use of spreadsheets.Which is easy for others who are unaware of planning software and its results.
You can create nice presentation using spread sheets. You can show the consented pro gramme of works as the first bar then due to delay event 1 how the project completion date got shifted as the second bar similarly you can repeat for all the delay events.For further substantiation you can attach the impacted pro-gramme of delay events for reviewers reference
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Submitted by Samer Zawaydeh on Wed, 2010-04-07 12:59
You are trying to avoid the number crunshing, but I do not think that you can avoid that. Prepare a list of the delay in excel and study then according to importance. Concentrate on the driving delays. The minor delays of the Contractor are going to be disregarded any ways if you are talking about amicable settlement. So list them according to priority and get management approval on the list that you want to study.
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15 years 8 monthsHi,I write an article
Hi,
I write an article regarding How to perform Impacted As-Planned Delay Analysis in Primavera P6.
If you're interested, kindly read it here https://doduykhuong.com/2016/09/19/how-to-perform-impacted-as-planned-delay-analysis-in-primavera-p6/
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17 years 3 monthsRE: How to do a fair impacted-as-planned analysis?
Dear Andrew,
This is to confirm your statement. If our friend wants to use the case, he must study the complete case and use the anology accordingly. What I have stated is my own personal opinion in the matter.
With kind regards,
Samer
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20 years 10 monthsRE: How to do a fair impacted-as-planned analysis?
Samer,
Although I think the principle you state will still stand, (it’s nothing new, a fatally flawed analysis is a fatally flawed analysis - which may not be relied upon), I believe this case is subject to appeal and therefore you should be a little careful of quoting from it just yet.
Personally I think aspects of this case should have been dismissed due to the contractor failing to meet the burden of proof, (as would possibly have been the case in the USA), but I doubt that will be the decision of any appeal either.
So we wait and see!
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17 years 3 monthsRE: How to do a fair impacted-as-planned analysis?
Dear Bo,
You might find this article interesting as well. I copied the last paragraph for your review:
Title: Critical Path Delay Analysis
Case: City Inn Ltd v Shepherd Construction Ltd [2007] CSOH 190
Year: 2008
Court: Outer House of the Court of Session in Scotland
http://www.planningengineers.org/publications/legalcases.aspx
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In deciding upon the criticality of the alleged delaying events, and therefore the entitlement to extension of time, the judge considered that the application of practicality and common-sense was more reliable than a flawed as-built critical path analysis."
With kind regards,
Samer
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17 years 3 monthsRE: How to do a fair impacted-as-planned analysis?
Dear Bo,
Here is an article that might be of use to you in your preparation:
http://www.mbam.org.my/mbam/images/MBJ4Q06(pdf)/@Entrusty.pdf
With kind regards,
Samer
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17 years 3 monthsRE: How to do a fair impacted-as-planned analysis?
Dear Bo,
The theory of delay and studying its consequences is the same as the theory of the Critical Path Method. It did not change.
You need to determine the delay event, get it approved by the Engineer, and then impact the schedule. You study each delay event independently, then you study them all together.
With kind regards,
Samer
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16 years 11 monthsRE: How to do a fair impacted-as-planned analysis?
Hi bo
You can form a WBS named delay event fragnet ,under this WBS you can create a schedule of delay events based on the chronological order[All delay events are tied together ].In that you can eliminate concurrent delay events if any
and impact on the consented pro-gramme of works
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19 years 8 monthsRE: How to do a fair impacted-as-planned analysis?
Dear Samer,
Thank you for the answer.
The number crushing has been done long time ago, so has the Excel sheet with a prioritised list of delay and initially only a delay analysis with the most driving delays, as you suggest, was also carried out. Time- and cost impact analyses have also been done long time ago for almost each and every claim. The Employer has now asked for all claims to be incorporated into one global time impact analysis (not cost).
Anyway, forget all about the actual project. The question was more related to the principles/theory of carrying out an impacted-as-planned analysis involving multiple delay events, not just one or a few.
Regards,
Bo
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16 years 11 monthsRE: How to do a fair impacted-as-planned analysis?
Hi to all
If you want to show all the delay events together it is better to make use of spreadsheets.Which is easy for others who are unaware of planning software and its results.
You can create nice presentation using spread sheets. You can show the consented pro gramme of works as the first bar then due to delay event 1 how the project completion date got shifted as the second bar similarly you can repeat for all the delay events.For further substantiation you can attach the impacted pro-gramme of delay events for reviewers reference
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17 years 3 monthsRE: How to do a fair impacted-as-planned analysis?
Dear Bo,
What is the project parameters:
Duration:
Budgeted Amount:
Final duration:
Final Invoiced Amounts:
Client Requested Changes:
Time Impact:
Cost Impact:
Approved Time Extension Due to other factors:
Contractor Delays:
You are trying to avoid the number crunshing, but I do not think that you can avoid that. Prepare a list of the delay in excel and study then according to importance. Concentrate on the driving delays. The minor delays of the Contractor are going to be disregarded any ways if you are talking about amicable settlement. So list them according to priority and get management approval on the list that you want to study.
With kind regards,
Samer