Steve, there are people and companies that understand and do it. But their number is small and most of them are in Russia. There are language, cultural and other barriers between Russian and English speaking worlds, so many methods and tools used in Russia are not known abroad. I try to speak about them at the International conferences but rarely meet full understanding.
It looks like there is a problem with understanding the goals of project management. It looks like triple constraint is understood as an ultimate goal, people do not look further. It is necessary to teach people (and especially top management) right approach to project management and I admire your work in this direction.
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Vladimir
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Submitted by Stephen Devaux on Fri, 2015-04-17 13:03
In the blog article, oneof the (two) definitions that I quote is:
"An act of devoting time, effort, or energy to a particular undertaking with the expectation of a worthwhile result."
I also list some of the possible valuable goals of a project:
· Future cost savings;
· Garnering votes;
· Prosecuting criminals;
· Saving lives; or
· Any other of dozens of efforts intended to create a valuable result.
Yet you may be right -- perhaps people think investments are only about money. If so, it's a sad commentary, especially for supposedly educated people.
Not only, as you say, if "the project brings nothing it should not start", but if it brings less than it will cost, or less than could be gotten by less risky means, it should not start. Additionally, the difference between the expected value of the project and the expected remaining cost should be the prime metric for project execution. Decisions/expenditures that maximize that difference are (almost always) good project decisions.
But perhaps the only way people will understand this is if they start seeing projects as investments, and tracking themas such through the DIPP and the DPI. And that probably has to come from senior management.
What is sad is that, as I understand from you, Spider Project is the one package that, out of the box, has all the functionality to deal with all this -- but no one understands how to do it!
Fraternally in project management,
Steve the Bajan
Fraternally in project management,
Steve the Bajan
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Member for24 years9 months
Submitted by Vladimir Liberzon on Thu, 2015-04-16 20:26
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24 years 9 monthsSteve, there are people and
Steve, there are people and companies that understand and do it. But their number is small and most of them are in Russia. There are language, cultural and other barriers between Russian and English speaking worlds, so many methods and tools used in Russia are not known abroad. I try to speak about them at the International conferences but rarely meet full understanding.
It looks like there is a problem with understanding the goals of project management. It looks like triple constraint is understood as an ultimate goal, people do not look further. It is necessary to teach people (and especially top management) right approach to project management and I admire your work in this direction.
Best Regards,
Vladimir
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20 years 7 monthsHi, Vladimir. It's possible
Hi, Vladimir. It's possible you are correct.
In the blog article, oneof the (two) definitions that I quote is:
"An act of devoting time, effort, or energy to a particular undertaking with the expectation of a worthwhile result."
I also list some of the possible valuable goals of a project:
· Future cost savings;
· Garnering votes;
· Prosecuting criminals;
· Saving lives; or
· Any other of dozens of efforts intended to create a valuable result.
Yet you may be right -- perhaps people think investments are only about money. If so, it's a sad commentary, especially for supposedly educated people.
Not only, as you say, if "the project brings nothing it should not start", but if it brings less than it will cost, or less than could be gotten by less risky means, it should not start. Additionally, the difference between the expected value of the project and the expected remaining cost should be the prime metric for project execution. Decisions/expenditures that maximize that difference are (almost always) good project decisions.
But perhaps the only way people will understand this is if they start seeing projects as investments, and tracking themas such through the DIPP and the DPI. And that probably has to come from senior management.
What is sad is that, as I understand from you, Spider Project is the one package that, out of the box, has all the functionality to deal with all this -- but no one understands how to do it!
Fraternally in project management,
Steve the Bajan
Fraternally in project management,
Steve the Bajan
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24 years 9 monthsSteve, any project shall
Steve, any project shall bring some benefits.
It could be money, it could be health, social, political or any other kinds of benefits.
If the project brings nothing it should not start.
Maybe people do not agree because they do not understand that investment and profit metrics do not always mean money only?