This is my process for fixing SureTrak files, it is a section in my updated SureTrak book due out soon:
SureTrak has a tendency to occasionally corrupt large project files and by experience the author has found this is more frequent with those saved on a server with a slow connection. The schedule will do strange things such as not displaying logic links or changing logic links. These may be simply fixed by one or more of the following techniques after the project has been backed up:
1. Delete an offending Layout with explorer and recreate a Layout if one layout is causing issues.
2. Run the programme PFXW.EXE which is found in the SureTrak program file directory on your computer, usually at C:\Program Files/SureTrak, with the options selected below. The project must be saved in Program Group or Concentric (P3) format for this function to work.
3. Delete the ****STW.P3 (for exampleA000STW.P3) file. This will delete all SureTrak specific data such as the filters, reports and print setting but often resolves corrupt file issues. These data items will have to be re-established by transferring from another project or recreating them.
4. If the above techniques fail then the schedule may be Batched using the program “Batch”, details of this are available from the Primavera web site www.prinamvera.com. This programme takes the data into text format and then recreates the file again.
Paul E Harris
Eastwood Harris Pty Ltd, Melbourne, Australia
Planning and Scheduling Training Manual & Book Publishers & Consulting
Sue, i had encountered such an error in my schedule in suretrak. I know you cannot click on the activity sometime. If you try it selects a number of activity together and not let you create links. do this: try your arrow keeys on the keyboard to reach that activity but you still cannot connect links. So you can refresh the screeen either by changing the layout or changing the filter and you can get back on it. and I am very sure that suretrak can handle more then 2000 activites, well actually 10,000. Cause I have a schedule in suretrak with almost 8000 activities.
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Submitted by Sue Chambers on Thu, 2006-09-07 11:31
I have saved the file after removing the corrupt parts, but as soon as I continue it is corrupted again, I have alos used basic script and selected Reindex, rebuild to try and solve this problem but to no avail.
Is it possible that i have to work in project groups instead of concentrix (P3) and if so how do I set this up so I can view the whole project?
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Submitted by Ronald Winter on Thu, 2006-09-07 10:53
Once and for all, SureTrack has a 10,000 activity limit. I have used it for 10 years. I know this to be a fact. Once you get near the 10,000 activity limit, there is a chance of lost data. Yes, SureTrack is a great deal. That is why we are so dissapointed with the newer Contractor (the look-alike software to P5) which DOES have a 750 activity limit.
If you have corruption problems with SureTrack (which can happen to any scheduling software) then try copying the project and use the copy. Perform a Chkdisk on your hard drive. Look for computer viruses. Good luck!
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Submitted by Sue Chambers on Thu, 2006-09-07 10:45
Sorry I did not write that very well, Suretrack, if my memory serves me correctly, has a 750 activity limit.
As you are heading for 2000 activites, then you will need to move it into another system, the obviouse choice would be P3.
Suretrack is an activity limited version of the P3 Software, you will find them very compatible and will be able to switch over very quickly.
As for alternative software the obviouse choice would be to move into "bright new world" of Primaveras current "new" product called P5. However this will be a bit harder to learn - but is the future for planning.
Try checkiing out the webb site Primavera.com (not a very good site to find things - be warned),
You could perhaps try condensing your activies so yo can come within the Suretrack activity range.
Regards
John
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Submitted by Sue Chambers on Thu, 2006-09-07 10:25
If the possibility is 2000 activities then I have not used half yet. I do not think we have any extra licenses. Is P3 a different version and if so do we have to purchase that to be able to complete my project plan if not can any one suggest another application to complete this task?
With a possibility of towards 2000 activities, I think you have/will exceed Suretrack limits, strange how you have managed to get so many activite in already!!!.
It will pay to move it into say P3, hopefully your firm may have a spare licence for you to use.
Regards
John
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Submitted by Sue Chambers on Thu, 2006-09-07 09:05
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Dear Paul
Thank you very much for all this useful information
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24 years 6 monthsRE: Problems with primavera
This is my process for fixing SureTrak files, it is a section in my updated SureTrak book due out soon:
SureTrak has a tendency to occasionally corrupt large project files and by experience the author has found this is more frequent with those saved on a server with a slow connection. The schedule will do strange things such as not displaying logic links or changing logic links. These may be simply fixed by one or more of the following techniques after the project has been backed up:
1. Delete an offending Layout with explorer and recreate a Layout if one layout is causing issues.
2. Run the programme PFXW.EXE which is found in the SureTrak program file directory on your computer, usually at C:\Program Files/SureTrak, with the options selected below. The project must be saved in Program Group or Concentric (P3) format for this function to work.
3. Delete the ****STW.P3 (for exampleA000STW.P3) file. This will delete all SureTrak specific data such as the filters, reports and print setting but often resolves corrupt file issues. These data items will have to be re-established by transferring from another project or recreating them.
4. If the above techniques fail then the schedule may be Batched using the program “Batch”, details of this are available from the Primavera web site www.prinamvera.com. This programme takes the data into text format and then recreates the file again.
Paul E Harris
Eastwood Harris Pty Ltd, Melbourne, Australia
Planning and Scheduling Training Manual & Book Publishers & Consulting
www.eh.com.au
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21 years 1 monthRE: Problems with primavera
Well done Abhijeet - must remember that one.
John
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19 years 2 monthsRE: Problems with primavera
Dear Abhijeet.
Thank you so much I removed the filter and now everything is working again for the moment
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19 years 2 monthsRE: Problems with primavera
Dear Abhijeet.
I know i can use the arrow keys to navigate to these activities, but I cannot link them.
Thanks I will try changing the filter and see if that will work.
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19 years 4 monthsRE: Problems with primavera
Sue, i had encountered such an error in my schedule in suretrak. I know you cannot click on the activity sometime. If you try it selects a number of activity together and not let you create links. do this: try your arrow keeys on the keyboard to reach that activity but you still cannot connect links. So you can refresh the screeen either by changing the layout or changing the filter and you can get back on it. and I am very sure that suretrak can handle more then 2000 activites, well actually 10,000. Cause I have a schedule in suretrak with almost 8000 activities.
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19 years 2 monthsRE: Problems with primavera
Hi John
I have tried using another pc and had the IT dept reload surtrak onto my pc but I still have the same results
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21 years 1 monthRE: Problems with primavera
Hi
What about moving the project onto another PC preferably running NT or 98, or even reloading SureTrack software on your PC - desperate measures time.
John
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19 years 2 monthsRE: Problems with primavera
Hi John and Ron I am using windows 2000
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21 years 1 monthRE: Problems with primavera
Hi Ron
My apologies for doubting - it is 10K, I was under the impression that the new version was using the limits of the old version i.e. my 750 activities.
I am not impressed with the new 32 bit stuff either, a bit more thought could have made a lot better product.
Looking at the brochure, I see it runs on the operating systems NT/95/98, I wonder what Sue is running it on.
Regards
John
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19 years 2 monthsRE: Problems with primavera
Thanks Ronald
I have saved the file after removing the corrupt parts, but as soon as I continue it is corrupted again, I have alos used basic script and selected Reindex, rebuild to try and solve this problem but to no avail.
Is it possible that i have to work in project groups instead of concentrix (P3) and if so how do I set this up so I can view the whole project?
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22 years 10 monthsRE: Problems with primavera
Once and for all, SureTrack has a 10,000 activity limit. I have used it for 10 years. I know this to be a fact. Once you get near the 10,000 activity limit, there is a chance of lost data. Yes, SureTrack is a great deal. That is why we are so dissapointed with the newer Contractor (the look-alike software to P5) which DOES have a 750 activity limit.
If you have corruption problems with SureTrack (which can happen to any scheduling software) then try copying the project and use the copy. Perform a Chkdisk on your hard drive. Look for computer viruses. Good luck!
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19 years 2 monthsRE: Problems with primavera
I also wish it had a 10k limit.
As for 4 times the cost our P3 is 13x the amout os SureTrak
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21 years 1 monthRE: Problems with primavera
Hi Ron
Most interesting Suretrack with a 10k limit
- I wonder why we use P3 and pay four times the amout for a licence?
John
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21 years 1 monthRE: Problems with primavera
Hi
Sorry I did not write that very well, Suretrack, if my memory serves me correctly, has a 750 activity limit.
As you are heading for 2000 activites, then you will need to move it into another system, the obviouse choice would be P3.
Suretrack is an activity limited version of the P3 Software, you will find them very compatible and will be able to switch over very quickly.
As for alternative software the obviouse choice would be to move into "bright new world" of Primaveras current "new" product called P5. However this will be a bit harder to learn - but is the future for planning.
Try checkiing out the webb site Primavera.com (not a very good site to find things - be warned),
You could perhaps try condensing your activies so yo can come within the Suretrack activity range.
Regards
John
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19 years 2 monthsRE: Problems with primavera
I am fine Ronald mate but my file keeps corrupting in suretrak and I need to know why to stop this happening so I can complete my plan
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22 years 10 monthsRE: Problems with primavera
Not to worry, Mate. SureTrack has no stated limits; just a practical limit of 10,000 activities. You should be just fine using SureTrack. Good luck!
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19 years 2 monthsRE: Problems with primavera
If the possibility is 2000 activities then I have not used half yet. I do not think we have any extra licenses. Is P3 a different version and if so do we have to purchase that to be able to complete my project plan if not can any one suggest another application to complete this task?
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21 years 1 monthRE: Problems with primavera
Hi
With a possibility of towards 2000 activities, I think you have/will exceed Suretrack limits, strange how you have managed to get so many activite in already!!!.
It will pay to move it into say P3, hopefully your firm may have a spare licence for you to use.
Regards
John
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19 years 2 monthsRE: Problems with primavera
Approx 900 so far and I am only half way through the projext
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21 years 1 monthRE: Problems with primavera
Hi
I think Suretrack has a limit of 750 activites as well.
How many activites do you have in your plan?
John
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19 years 2 monthsRE: Problems with primavera
Hi Alex
I am using SureTrak 3.0b Version 2
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22 years 8 monthsRE: Problems with primavera
Sue
Are you using a education version of P3, becasue it is restricted to 750 activities
^^
Alex