I do agree with Charles, my previous project using same coding with BOQ its, much easier to do claims, to track/ compare quantities and progress measurement parellel with cost control department.
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Submitted by Charleston-Jos… on Wed, 2005-08-31 08:23
It uses numbers in organizing Division. It easily fit in the WBS code because it got hierarchy in breaing upp the details of each trades.
While Masterformat is used in North America, I usually converted the SMM coding of the BOQ into Masterformat because I find it comfortable in dealings with numbers.
I hope this will help.
Cheers, Charlie
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Submitted by Darrell ODea on Wed, 2005-08-24 07:03
Most "industries" will have a "Standard" method for measuring quantities. In the UK it is The SMM7 (Or Standard Method of Measurement). In Eire for Construction it is ARM (Agreed Rate of Measurement).
The Standard Methods usually lay out coding structures for various elements, types or Catagories of works.
Alpha or Alpha-numeric catagories.(The ARM exaple is as follows)
C = Demolitions & Alterations (Items Under C)
C1 = Repointing,
C2 = Cleaning Surfaces
C21 = Brickwork
So say for an activity - Strip Plaster & Repoint Brickwork
Activity ID = C1-0100 (As a unique ID)
Have set up a P3 Programme, following this exacting format.
It took about two weeks in total, to feed in the main coding and main headings.
But it is a powerful tool now, when I need either a Tender or Contarct Programme. Dont always use it though. Horses for Courses.
This type of structure fits neatly into a BoQ, providing the correct coding was used when drafting the BoQ.
Hope this might be of use??
Regards,
Darrell
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Submitted by Hannes de Bruyne on Wed, 2005-08-24 04:32
Im working with planning-tools for many years now (almost 30yrs). In the last 5-10 years planning gets more and more important, as construction periods get shorter, scopes change very often etc. This means that claim-management asks for a good timeschedule. Also departments, that did not work with timeschedules before start to do so now. In order to improve our working-methods and to have a guideline for new users some collegues and I started to bring the experience, that we have to paper.
I started to write procedures with very tight rules like e.g. Project structure with WBS based on BOQ-stucture with a header for contractual/general. No discussions about Act.-Codes - basta! Those A-Codes are only for personal use or special requirements.
So these are the things Im looking for tight procedure, to see if they fit into my scheme.
Regards,
Hannes de Bruyne
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Submitted by Darrell ODea on Tue, 2005-08-23 09:19
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Hi Hannes,
I do agree with Charles, my previous project using same coding with BOQ its, much easier to do claims, to track/ compare quantities and progress measurement parellel with cost control department.
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20 years 3 monthsRE: Procedures for working with P3
Hello Hanes,
You may try the Masterformat, latest edition.
It uses numbers in organizing Division. It easily fit in the WBS code because it got hierarchy in breaing upp the details of each trades.
While Masterformat is used in North America, I usually converted the SMM coding of the BOQ into Masterformat because I find it comfortable in dealings with numbers.
I hope this will help.
Cheers, Charlie
Member for
23 years 8 monthsRE: Procedures for working with P3
Hannes,
Most "industries" will have a "Standard" method for measuring quantities. In the UK it is The SMM7 (Or Standard Method of Measurement). In Eire for Construction it is ARM (Agreed Rate of Measurement).
The Standard Methods usually lay out coding structures for various elements, types or Catagories of works.
Alpha or Alpha-numeric catagories.(The ARM exaple is as follows)
C = Demolitions & Alterations (Items Under C)
C1 = Repointing,
C2 = Cleaning Surfaces
C21 = Brickwork
So say for an activity - Strip Plaster & Repoint Brickwork
Activity ID = C1-0100 (As a unique ID)
Have set up a P3 Programme, following this exacting format.
It took about two weeks in total, to feed in the main coding and main headings.
But it is a powerful tool now, when I need either a Tender or Contarct Programme. Dont always use it though. Horses for Courses.
This type of structure fits neatly into a BoQ, providing the correct coding was used when drafting the BoQ.
Hope this might be of use??
Regards,
Darrell
Member for
20 years 3 monthsRE: Procedures for working with P3
Hello Darrell,
Im working with planning-tools for many years now (almost 30yrs). In the last 5-10 years planning gets more and more important, as construction periods get shorter, scopes change very often etc. This means that claim-management asks for a good timeschedule. Also departments, that did not work with timeschedules before start to do so now. In order to improve our working-methods and to have a guideline for new users some collegues and I started to bring the experience, that we have to paper.
I started to write procedures with very tight rules like e.g. Project structure with WBS based on BOQ-stucture with a header for contractual/general. No discussions about Act.-Codes - basta! Those A-Codes are only for personal use or special requirements.
So these are the things Im looking for tight procedure, to see if they fit into my scheme.
Regards,
Hannes de Bruyne
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23 years 8 monthsRE: Procedures for working with P3
Hannes,
Can you explain, what you are after???
As this is of interest to me. Have you had a go yourself?
Regards,
Darrell