Yes we can have a resource and cost loaded schedule as a Baseline.
To track this type of Baseline, for Resources the actual time spent by the resource on a particular activity is to be maintained along with the activity actual start, finish,remaining duration and the cost also to be entered as and when incurred.
Can we make the schedule as the baseline schedule by keeping the resources & Cost?
If yes, how can we track the resources & cost, i know the activity tracking but i dont know the resource & cost tracking.. Can you help me out from this?
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Submitted by Mark Greenhalgh on Wed, 2011-09-28 01:55
Anyone creating a baseline schedule had better know all the claims happening at the beginning so they can get their delay claims built into the longest path of the baseline schedule. The first schedule update from the baseline can have new logic and added delay claim activities thrown into the critical path. If you have a delay claim that is not on the critical path, and if you have advanced the data date before correcting logic, dates, durations and lags, you probably will not get your claim approved. You can always go back in time to find out where the critical path was, but you will need to use the Longest Path Approximator to do that. http://scheduling.spacetechnology.net It is capable of moving the data date back to the beginning of the month, and then you can see the critical path. Hint: Ask for a free sample!
There is a similar query in my project, please help me the same.
Actually our project start date is from 27/01/2011 with 18 months completion but due to unsafe conditions, the project has been revised & a new schedule to be prepared from 15th sep'11.
The thing is i have to ignore the 100% completion activities till date and i have to plan ongoing activities with start date as 15th sep'11.
So, how can i plan & how can i show the 100% completed activities in the new schedule.
Can any body please help me what is the difference between Update as scheduled & Rescheduled work in Tracking Wizard and where should i apply this ogic while tracking?
Thanks, after a long batle were able to convince the clients to have a fresh set of start dates for the project amicably between all the parties involved. Now we have a new start date on which we are to track the schedule.The procedure I mentioned earlier along with new doubts is as mentioned below:
A ) Have saved my non resource non cost loaded schedule as Baseline and started updating the schedule from 01.06.11 as follows (it is only a task activity schedule):
1.Project - Project Information-Update the status date 2.Tools -Tracking-Save Baseline-Entire Project = Saved the schedule as Baseline 3.View - Table - Tracking & again View - Tracking Gnatt 4.Adjust the columns that we want to view in the Tracking Gnatt 5.Then I have entered the Acual Start date & Actual Finish date of an Activity along with the Physical % Complete. This % I am calculating from the quntum of work.(Say from 100 sqm of levelling 40 sqm is completed then Physical % complete = 40%.) 6.Tools - Tracking-Update Project- Reschedule uncompleted work to start after: I entered the Status Date of the project and For Entire Project was selected.
Is this the procedure correct to track a baseline schedule or there is any other way ?
B) If I have to allocate resources to the activities, Act a : Shuttering 15.07.11 to 15.09.11 (BQ=5000 sqm) , output of 1 carp=5sqm / day, so required for this particular activity say =5000 /(60*5)= 17 nos. Now this is for a particular activity a. Similarly if there are n activities involving the carpenters I will allocate the resources. But where shall I be entering the Max Carpenters in numbers?
C) If I require to show the % planned for an activity, the formula I got from searching the numerous threads here is as follows
I have entered this formula in the following way: Tools-Customize- Fields- Type-Number 1 (renamed it as % planned) Custom attributes - Formula (the above formula) Then inserted a Date 1(renamed as Status date) column and said 15.07.11.
Request the experienced persons to guide me in my queery.
As u say project is already delayed, this delay cannot be recoverable as per ur statement.
If the client are reluctant to change the schedule then u have to updated to the same schedule, There are many ways to update the schedule.... First u have to decide the ways of updating. to show the planned % u have to put formula... (search here u will get formula) after this show the planned % & updated the schedule with actual dates thats all. after updating the schedule if u want to show the expected dates for that one use progress override or manualy change the relationships according to the requirement,
Have saved my schedule as Baseline and started updating the schedule from 01.06.11 as follows:
1.Project - Project Information-Update the status date 2.Tools -Tracking-Save Baseline-Entire Project = Saved the schedule as Baseline 3.View - Table - Tracking & again View - Tracking Gnatt 4.Adjust the columns that we want to view in the Tracking Gnatt 5.Then I have entered the Acual Start date of an Activity along with the Physical % Complete. 6.Tools - Tracking-Update Project- Reschedule uncompleted work to start after: I entered the Status Date of the project and For Entire Project was selected.
Is this the procedure correct to track a baseline schedule or there is any other way ?
After following your steps as replied in post, I have updated only the start and end dates and the % completed columns for some of the activities in the baseline schedule saved. Is it required again to go to Tools - Tracking - Update Project dialogue box and schedule it? OR only save the baseline after updation?.
After I change the start date to the current date my end date also will move ahead, and hence the project will not be completed on the contractual end date. That means the revised baseline programme will surpass my contractual end date.
What is the difference between % compl & physical % compl columns in the tracking gnatt table? I have entered only the actual start & completion dates for some of the activities & the software automatically calculated the % compl column to 100%.
Rohit
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Submitted by Carlos Arana on Thu, 2011-05-19 23:55
you should pay special attention to what Senthuran is saying. Your team must also document and agree with the client what is the cause for the delays because there will be claims in the future and the contractor needs to have the cause of the delays documented.
There is no problem, but wouldnt it be more precise if a catchup / recovery schedule is prepared and then tracked than to track a lost schedule wherein there is a delay of 70 days.
Rohit
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Submitted by Carlos Arana on Wed, 2011-05-18 20:00
Capture actual start dates for the activities started, capture the performance on these activities, capture the finish date for finished activities and milestones, change the data date to the current date, reschedule, if your program is a CPM schedule prepare because the client will not believe the results and will try to disqualify them. If your program is not a CPM schedule then make it CPM before updating.
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17 years 6 monthsAshik, Yes we can have a
Ashik,
Yes we can have a resource and cost loaded schedule as a Baseline.
To track this type of Baseline, for Resources the actual time spent by the resource on a particular activity is to be maintained along with the activity actual start, finish,remaining duration and the cost also to be entered as and when incurred.
Rohit
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14 years 11 monthsHello Mr.Rohit, Can we make
Hello Mr.Rohit,
Can we make the schedule as the baseline schedule by keeping the resources & Cost?
If yes, how can we track the resources & cost, i know the activity tracking but i dont know the resource & cost tracking.. Can you help me out from this?
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22 years 3 monthsAnyone creating a baseline
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14 years 11 monthsHello Everybody, There is a
Hello Everybody,
There is a similar query in my project, please help me the same.
Actually our project start date is from 27/01/2011 with 18 months completion but due to unsafe conditions, the project has been revised & a new schedule to be prepared from 15th sep'11.
The thing is i have to ignore the 100% completion activities till date and i have to plan ongoing activities with start date as 15th sep'11.
So, how can i plan & how can i show the 100% completed activities in the new schedule.
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14 years 11 monthsHi Friends, Can any body
Hi Friends,
Can any body please help me what is the difference between Update as scheduled & Rescheduled work in Tracking Wizard and where should i apply this ogic while tracking?
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17 years 6 monthsHi, Thanks, after a long
Hi,
Thanks, after a long batle were able to convince the clients to have a fresh set of start dates for the project amicably between all the parties involved. Now we have a new start date on which we are to track the schedule.The procedure I mentioned earlier along with new doubts is as mentioned below:
A )
Have saved my non resource non cost loaded schedule as Baseline and started updating the schedule from 01.06.11 as follows (it is only a task activity schedule):
1.Project - Project Information-Update the status date
2.Tools -Tracking-Save Baseline-Entire Project = Saved the schedule as Baseline
3.View - Table - Tracking & again View - Tracking Gnatt
4.Adjust the columns that we want to view in the Tracking Gnatt
5.Then I have entered the Acual Start date & Actual Finish date of an Activity along with the Physical % Complete. This % I am calculating from the quntum of work.(Say from 100 sqm of levelling 40 sqm is completed then Physical % complete = 40%.)
6.Tools - Tracking-Update Project- Reschedule uncompleted work to start after: I entered the Status Date of the project and For Entire Project was selected.
Is this the procedure correct to track a baseline schedule or there is any other way ?
B)
If I have to allocate resources to the activities,
Act a : Shuttering 15.07.11 to 15.09.11 (BQ=5000 sqm) , output of 1 carp=5sqm / day, so required for this particular activity say =5000 /(60*5)= 17 nos. Now this is for a particular activity a. Similarly if there are n activities involving the carpenters I will allocate the resources. But where shall I be entering the Max Carpenters in numbers?
C)
If I require to show the % planned for an activity, the formula I got from searching the numerous threads here is as follows
IIf([Baseline Start]>[Status Date],0,IIf([Baseline Finish]<=[Status Date],100,ProjDateDiff([Status Date],[Baseline Start],"Standard")/ProjDateDiff([Baseline Finish],[Baseline Start],"Standard")*100))
but it is showing for some activities as 200%.
I have entered this formula in the following way:
Tools-Customize- Fields- Type-Number 1 (renamed it as % planned)
Custom attributes - Formula (the above formula)
Then inserted a Date 1(renamed as Status date) column and said 15.07.11.
Request the experienced persons to guide me in my queery.
Thanks in advance.
Rohit
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14 years 3 monthshey if the project is delayed
hey if the project is delayed by almost a year and work is only completed around 50% what should be done? rescheduling of remaining work ?
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16 years 11 monthsRohit, As u say project is
Rohit,
As u say project is already delayed, this delay cannot be recoverable as per ur statement.
If the client are reluctant to change the schedule then u have to updated to the same schedule, There are many ways to update the schedule.... First u have to decide the ways of updating. to show the planned % u have to put formula... (search here u will get formula) after this show the planned % & updated the schedule with actual dates thats all. after updating the schedule if u want to show the expected dates for that one use progress override or manualy change the relationships according to the requirement,
Still if u r facing problem revert please
Regards
Mukunda
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17 years 6 monthsDear Request to revert on my
Dear
Request to revert on my querry please.
Rohit
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17 years 6 monthsDear All, Have saved my
Dear All,
Have saved my schedule as Baseline and started updating the schedule from 01.06.11 as follows:
1.Project - Project Information-Update the status date
2.Tools -Tracking-Save Baseline-Entire Project = Saved the schedule as Baseline
3.View - Table - Tracking & again View - Tracking Gnatt
4.Adjust the columns that we want to view in the Tracking Gnatt
5.Then I have entered the Acual Start date of an Activity along with the Physical % Complete.
6.Tools - Tracking-Update Project- Reschedule uncompleted work to start after: I entered the Status Date of the project and For Entire Project was selected.
Is this the procedure correct to track a baseline schedule or there is any other way ?
Rohit
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17 years 6 monthsNo have posted my problem
No have posted my problem just today. request to revert back on it.
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14 years 6 monthsHi Rohit; Sorry I could not
Hi Rohit;
Sorry I could not access this forum last few days, have you solved your problem?
Senthuran
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17 years 6 monthsSenthuran After following
Senthuran
After following your steps as replied in post, I have updated only the start and end dates and the % completed columns for some of the activities in the baseline schedule saved. Is it required again to go to Tools - Tracking - Update Project dialogue box and schedule it? OR only save the baseline after updation?.
Rohit
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17 years 6 monthsSenthuran After I change the
Senthuran
After I change the start date to the current date my end date also will move ahead, and hence the project will not be completed on the contractual end date. That means the revised baseline programme will surpass my contractual end date.
Rohit
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17 years 6 monthsCarlos, What is the
Carlos,
What is the difference between % compl & physical % compl columns in the tracking gnatt table? I have entered only the actual start & completion dates for some of the activities & the software automatically calculated the % compl column to 100%.
Rohit
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16 years 5 monthsRohit, you should pay special
Rohit,
you should pay special attention to what Senthuran is saying. Your team must also document and agree with the client what is the cause for the delays because there will be claims in the future and the contractor needs to have the cause of the delays documented.
Best regards,
Carlos.
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14 years 6 monthsRegardless of the actual
Regardless of the actual start of the activity, what ever programme prepared originally and agreed by every body that is the baseline programme.
Currently due to various reasons, this programme has been delayed.
1) Save/assign the original programme as a baseline programme
2) Change the start date as the current data date and schedule the programme, now this is the programme revised baseline programme.
3) Save /assign this revised baseline programme and update the progress as on the current status for your data date.
Senthuran
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17 years 6 monthsCarlos, Thanks. Will do it as
Carlos,
Thanks. Will do it as you suggest. Will get back to you if any problems.
Rohit
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17 years 6 monthsMike There is no problem, but
Mike
There is no problem, but wouldnt it be more precise if a catchup / recovery schedule is prepared and then tracked than to track a lost schedule wherein there is a delay of 70 days.
Rohit
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16 years 5 monthsHi Rohit,Capture actual start
Hi Rohit,
Capture actual start dates for the activities started, capture the performance on these activities, capture the finish date for finished activities and milestones, change the data date to the current date, reschedule, if your program is a CPM schedule prepare because the client will not believe the results and will try to disqualify them. If your program is not a CPM schedule then make it CPM before updating.
Best regards,
Carlos
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19 years 10 monthsHi Rohit That would be quite
Hi Rohit
That would be quite normal practice - what precisely is your problem?
Best regards
Mike Testro
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17 years 6 monthsHi Mike Mike the baseline got
Hi Mike
Mike the baseline got finalized on 17 May 11 keeping the start date as 15 Feb 11, approximately 90 days after the project got started at site.
Regards,
Rohit K
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19 years 10 monthsHi Rohit I am assuming that
Hi Rohit
I am assuming that on 7th May 2011 you agreed a baseline programme that started on 15th February 2001.
The client now wants you to change the start date to 18th February 2011.
Let me know if this is correct and we can take it further.
Best regards
Mike Testro