Are you sure that P3 does not have zero free float constraint? I am sure it had it last time I looked.
Anyway, that is not relevant to this problem.
You could use a spare flag field to mark the Tasks you want to show at the late dates. Then make a new View (copy the Gantt Chart View). Then make a Bar Style which draws a bar from Late Start to Late Finish using "Task, Flag*" as the criteria. I would use a different colour so you can see the late flagged Tasks. This would just be a variation on the built in Detail Gantt View.
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Submitted by Jeremy Clarke on Tue, 2007-10-02 05:45
P3e does not have the zero float constraint that I remember from P3, only ALAP, which uses up the free float but not the total float. I suspect from my experience and your answer plus other inputs that this simply doesnt exist in MSP. ALAP uses up the total float on an activity - as you say not v. useful!
By the way, do you or anyone else know if there is a term for the start and finish dates at the back end of free float (in the sense of early and late dates, where late dates are at the back end of total float)?
Jerry
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Submitted by Trevor Rabey on Mon, 2007-10-01 19:41
P3 has a zero total float constraint. Useful. MSP does not.
Does P3s ALAP slide the Task to the end of FRee Float? MSPs ALAP is very strong. If applied to a noncritical Task it sucks all of the Float out of the Successors as well. Not v useful.
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Submitted by Jeremy Clarke on Mon, 2007-10-01 06:31
I have a test set up where this seems to be working only partially:
A 1 day task showing 3 days Free Slack gives a start date 2 days after Early Start using the formula ProjDateAdd([Early Start];[Free Slack];[Project Calendar]). The same formula with Early Finish gives a finish date 3 days after Early Finish. Any ideas why this could be?
Another question: Does anyone know how to make the task itself move to the end of its Free Slack? (In other words the same action as the "As late as possible" constraint in Primavera)
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Submitted by Nicolas Igersheim on Thu, 2007-08-09 12:59
Certain fields (Task: Cost1-10, Date1-10, Duration1-10, Finish1-10, Flag1-20, Number1-20, Start1-10, Text1-30; Resource: same as for Task) can have formulas.
Display the column, RightMouseButton on the column title and pick Customize fields from the popup menu.
To put in a formula, click on the Formula button.
Theres a number of Help topics associated with Formulas. Try a few things, if you have problems, report back with the formula thats giving you issues.
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Submitted by Nicolas Igersheim on Fri, 2007-08-03 04:16
if I understood it correctly the question was about showing not Late Dates defined by Total Float but Late Dates defined by Free Float. I dont understand your solution of this task, please explain in more details.
Regards,
Vladimir
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Submitted by Alexandre Faul… on Tue, 2007-07-10 12:36
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24 years 6 monthsRE: Late Start & Free Float
P3 does have a Zero Free Float but P3e does not.
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19 years 11 monthsRE: Late Start & Free Float
Are you sure that P3 does not have zero free float constraint? I am sure it had it last time I looked.
Anyway, that is not relevant to this problem.
You could use a spare flag field to mark the Tasks you want to show at the late dates. Then make a new View (copy the Gantt Chart View). Then make a Bar Style which draws a bar from Late Start to Late Finish using "Task, Flag*" as the criteria. I would use a different colour so you can see the late flagged Tasks. This would just be a variation on the built in Detail Gantt View.
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19 years 11 monthsRE: Late Start & Free Float
Hi Trevor
P3e does not have the zero float constraint that I remember from P3, only ALAP, which uses up the free float but not the total float. I suspect from my experience and your answer plus other inputs that this simply doesnt exist in MSP. ALAP uses up the total float on an activity - as you say not v. useful!
By the way, do you or anyone else know if there is a term for the start and finish dates at the back end of free float (in the sense of early and late dates, where late dates are at the back end of total float)?
Jerry
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19 years 11 monthsRE: Late Start & Free Float
P3 has a zero total float constraint. Useful. MSP does not.
Does P3s ALAP slide the Task to the end of FRee Float? MSPs ALAP is very strong. If applied to a noncritical Task it sucks all of the Float out of the Successors as well. Not v useful.
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19 years 11 monthsRE: Late Start & Free Float
I have a test set up where this seems to be working only partially:
A 1 day task showing 3 days Free Slack gives a start date 2 days after Early Start using the formula ProjDateAdd([Early Start];[Free Slack];[Project Calendar]). The same formula with Early Finish gives a finish date 3 days after Early Finish. Any ideas why this could be?
Another question: Does anyone know how to make the task itself move to the end of its Free Slack? (In other words the same action as the "As late as possible" constraint in Primavera)
Jerry Clarke
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18 years 4 monthsRE: Late Start & Free Float
Works perfectly !
(Customize in French is Personnaliser)
Thanks again!
Nicolas
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18 years 4 monthsRE: Late Start & Free Float
Thanks a lot L.E.N.
I shall try it and let you know
maybe with some more questions
regards
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18 years 3 monthsRE: Late Start & Free Float
Starting with P2000 ...
Certain fields (Task: Cost1-10, Date1-10, Duration1-10, Finish1-10, Flag1-20, Number1-20, Start1-10, Text1-30; Resource: same as for Task) can have formulas.
Display the column, RightMouseButton on the column title and pick Customize fields from the popup menu.
To put in a formula, click on the Formula button.
Theres a number of Help topics associated with Formulas. Try a few things, if you have problems, report back with the formula thats giving you issues.
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18 years 4 monthsRE: Late Start & Free Float
Hi all,
Alexandre,
I am totally new to theses formulas you guys talk about.
Could you explain a little and maybe
write a few words of "how-to"
for us newbies, pls?
thanks a lot in advance
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19 years 4 monthsRE: Late Start & Free Float
Hi
Thanks again for the tips. The formula required is the following:
ProjDateAdd([Early Start];[Free Slack];[Project Calendar])
Works well especially for; awarding sub contractors and site mobilsation.
Cheers
Craig
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19 years 4 monthsRE: Late Start & Free Float
Thanks for your help. Ill give it a try and let you know how I got on.
Thanks
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22 years 9 monthsRE: Late Start & Free Float
OK,
I missed the point
the formula is (in French): ProjDateSub([Fin repoussée au plus tard le];[Marge libre];[Calendrier du projet]); should be in English:
ProjDateSub([Latest Finish Date];[Free Slack];[Project Calendar]), or something close
Hope this help this time
Alexandre
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24 years 9 monthsRE: Late Start & Free Float
Alexandre,
if I understood it correctly the question was about showing not Late Dates defined by Total Float but Late Dates defined by Free Float. I dont understand your solution of this task, please explain in more details.
Regards,
Vladimir
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22 years 9 monthsRE: Late Start & Free Float
Hi,
Create a formula such as Flag1 = Yes if Free Float > 0
Create a bar style that associates the said formula, then display the late start date along with the bar
There you are
Alexandre