If your sub-contractor is causing you delays then you the contractor will be subject to LAD's from the employer.
From this point on your recovery from the sub-contractor depends entirely on what the sub-contract says.
If there is a LAD clause in the sub-contract then all that you can recover from the Sub-contractor is the agreed amount for each day. You cannot get paid your own costs.
It is therefore essential that you read and understand the sub-contract - they often limit any liability to a percentage of the contract sum.
It is possible that the contractor may be facing large losses and cannot get it all back from the sub-contractor.
Come back if you need further input after you have read the sub-contract.
Best regards
Mike Testro
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Submitted by Tanveer Ahmad Niazi on Sat, 2012-06-30 14:07
Thank you very much, but i have some more questions;
I am with the main contractor. I think I did not mention it clear that the Engineer did not reply to the subcontractor, but he suggested us (the main contractor). We just rejected the subcontractor’s ECT request and did not impose any penalty.
As far as my analysis is concerned, the MEP subcontractor is responsible for the delays of 82 days. We (the main contractor) as far as the finishing work are concerned we followed the MEP subcontractor, which was delayed due to the MEP work.
In the current condition, as you said the Engineer’s decision is not correct, what if the Engineer or the Employer imposes delay penalty on us (the main contractor?
Can we impose penalty of 82 days on the subcontractor i9n that case?
In lines 10 & 11 of your reply to my post, dated 2012-04-28, title “DELAY or BREACH OF CONTRACT” you wrote “If the contractor misses the task dates it is a technical breach of contract but only becomes an effective breach it the completion date is affected”. Now in this case the finish date is shifted 82 days way from its contractual date. Hence it is a breach of contract (in my view as per your words).
The project was 13 days delay before the MEP delay but no civil /structure work activity was started late; delay was due to slow progress. Do you think that the breach of contract penalty cannot be imposed on the subcontractor because the finish date had already shifted?
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19 years 10 monthsThanx Mr. Testro I will read
Thanx Mr. Testro I will read the subcontract agreemenr again and will come back to you. Thank you very musch
Cheers
tanveer
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19 years 10 monthsHi Tanveer If your
Hi Tanveer
If your sub-contractor is causing you delays then you the contractor will be subject to LAD's from the employer.
From this point on your recovery from the sub-contractor depends entirely on what the sub-contract says.
If there is a LAD clause in the sub-contract then all that you can recover from the Sub-contractor is the agreed amount for each day. You cannot get paid your own costs.
It is therefore essential that you read and understand the sub-contract - they often limit any liability to a percentage of the contract sum.
It is possible that the contractor may be facing large losses and cannot get it all back from the sub-contractor.
Come back if you need further input after you have read the sub-contract.
Best regards
Mike Testro
Member for
19 years 10 monthsDear Mr. TestroThank you very
Dear Mr. Testro
Thank you very much, but i have some more questions;
I am with the main contractor. I think I did not mention it clear that the Engineer did not reply to the subcontractor, but he suggested us (the main contractor). We just rejected the subcontractor’s ECT request and did not impose any penalty.
Cheers
Tanveer
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19 years 10 monthsHi Tanveer 1. No 2. No 3. Not
Hi Tanveer
1. No
2. No
3. Not that I have heard
Best regards
Mike Testro