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My first programme. Need Help

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Mon Melendres
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Dear All,

 

I just want to have feedbacks from you guys regarding my programme (using P3, Water Pipeline Project). I have no one to consult to. Surely i'll appreciate your feedbacks greatly. I am not sure what are my mistakes, improvement and suggestions regarding my programme. thanks thanks.

Note: I am not sure also of my critical path as it shows only those activity that are latter part of the project????? (since other major activities are shown in earlier part) 

here's the link in compressed file.

http://www.filedropper.com/e346

 

thanks in advance,

mon melendres

mon.melendres@yahoo.com

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Mon Melendres
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James,

your breakdown is a bit hard but i think it is quite impressive. thanks. i'll try it should there be any re-programming.

Regards,

Mon 

James bid
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hi mon,

I  am also doing a underground services and maybe the structure that i pasted below might help you.

I have some pointers as follows:

1. MAybe you could include your company initial in your activity id to distinguish the ownership of your program

2. you must define what are your preliminaries, consultant might ask you the breakdown.

3. i found Concrete mix design? is this for chamber? or for concrte blinding prior to chamber?

4. is your chamber cast in situ? i found delivery of precast chamber(DEL 04) and construction of chamber( MUA 09)

5. maybe delivery of pipes and fittings should be one activity

6. In my view, all material procurement activity should be present in construction activity i.e, pipes and fittings- pipelaying, i found heat shrink material and corrosion protection in your engineering, where is this in your construction activity? pipe wrapping?

 

hope will help,

 

             
Preliminary        
  Key Milestone      
    General      
      Project start    
      Notice to proceed    
      Project complete and Hand over
    other milestone    
      drawing received    
             
             
Engineering        
  Construction drawing    
    Muaither south    
    Muraikh       
    Other area      
  Shop drawing      
             
  Detailed drawing      
             
  As built drawing      
             
Procurement        
  Material Management    
    General      
      Pipes & Fittings    
      Concrete material(mix design)
      Bedding & surround material  
      Valves      
      Flow meter    
      Chamber cover frame  
      warning tape    
  Material Procurement    
    General      
      pipes po    
      pipe lead time    
      pipe delivery on site  
             
Construction        
  Zone 5S        
    Muaither area    
      Excavation    
      Gravel Bedding    
      Pipe wrapping and laying  
      Hydraulic swabbing  
      Concrete blinding and chamber placing
      Valve Installation    
      Pipe Testing    
      Gravel surround     
      Partial Backfill & Warning tape
      Backfill to GL    
      Coonection to exiasting and sterilization
      Reinstatement    
    Muraikh area    
             
             
    other area      
             
             
  demobilization      
             

 

Mon Melendres
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Mike

Got your point regarding balancing of pred, yeah i'll modified my programme, i think FS will result more smooth.

Great advice, thanks.

Mon

Mike Testro
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Hi Mon

Justin is giving you good technical advice so I wil not try to add to that.

Since you are using P3 I assume that you are using SS Links with some lag - which is why your critical path will be distorted.

If at all possible try to break the work down into small spreads - at least between major structures such as pumping stations and crossings.

Try to use FS links if possible - if not then make sure you have a FF link to balance each SS.

Beware of structures - particularly with piled foundations with a 28 day curing period for the test pile.

It is most likely that your true critical path will go through the structures - not the pipeline.

Allow for a shorter working day during Ramadan and peak temperatures.

With automatic welding you can expect up to 500m a day production - semi automatic up to 200m per day.

BTW I have just completed a detailed programme for a 120km gas pipeline using AstaPower project - it took me 90 minutes including all structures and crossings and welder resourced.

Best regards

Mike Testro

Mon Melendres
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Justin,

thanks again. u'r insights are deeply appreciated.

God speed. 'til nxt time.

Regards,

Mon

Justin James
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Mon,

yes it is normal with pipe line projects, as long as u acheive the planned progress for the paricular month , u'll not face diffculties at the end.

Regards

Justin

Mon Melendres
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Justin,

Thanks you very much. It's nice to hear that we're working on similar project.

Yeah, I realized your insights. But how about the critical activities that reflects only those latter part of the project, is it normal????

Thanks again in advance.

 

Mon

Justin James
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Hai Mon.

I opend your file , and gone through it , since me too working in a similar project in doha , i found some loggical errors , like sterization & then connect to existing , 6 bar tesing is not included , Hdraulic swabbing should follow Iniial testing , Re-check your "Enginnering" activities . KAHRAMAA needs minimum of 7 days of review for major items , Under closeout , u cannot keep the milestone.1 asbuilt in general  , contractually it should come under Muaither Area & Muraikh Area seperately.

If u need any further assitance , send me an email sjustinjames@gmail.com

Regards

Justin,

Mon Melendres
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Mike

The project is an underground pipeline about 100 km long (located on various areas of Doha) with the cost of roughly 28 million USD.

The material is DIP.

My programme is yet to complete. The scheduling is finished, I have yet to load cost and resources.

P3 is the only programme i must use.

I open the link myself and there's no problem downloading file at all.

Hope to have your insights regarding this.

Many thanks,

Mon

Mike Testro
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Hi Mon

I could not open your link so this will have to be basic stuff.

Is your pipeline above ground or underground?

What size pipe and how long?

What material - steel or concrete?

How many  crews?

And for a start P3 is the wrong software - you need a time distance programme such as Tilos or PowerProject in task-per-line mode.

Best regards

Mike Testro