Hi guys,
The closest explanation I could so far find on the internet, of the modernday golden rivet, from a golf course in Australia "Our Name:
The Golden Divot has it’s origin in both ships and golf. For Sailors finding the Golden Rivet was an excuse to take lady guests on a tour of their ship in search of this special item. The Divot is a well known golfing term indicating the piece of turf that is taken by the golfer when hitting the ball. The Golden Divot name is indicative of the lifestyle of the host at the golden divot of playing and teaching golf in his retirement (golden) years. "

This is how golfers see it.

Regards

Philip

As an ex-yachty I am well aware of the golden rivet.Never seen it though...

Hi Philip,

Read your post #31. I started work as an apprentice Shipwright, so I’ve heard the story of the Golden Rivet. It’s going to be interesting to see who else has.

Chris Oggham

Hi Fiona,

What we actually need is a dictionary of terms, abreviations used by planners, in terms of normal methodology we can discuss. I am slightly embarrassed that I cannot remember them all off hand, and it would be nice to to create one standard. We all speak different languages, but at the end of the day we communicate in english, which is my second language, although I spoke it at the age of five. We need a univesal standard, that anybody can understand. Think about it.

Phillip

Re: Dictionary of terminology - I have one somewhere - I’ll try and dig it out or find someone who has it.

BTW - I’ll drink to pretty much anything !

Hey Gwennie - you up to your you-know-what in alligators again ? How’s the new digs ?

Hi Gwen,

Thanks for the explanation, I have a problem with abbreviations, there is some other name amongst the IT people, where you have to guess the answer. Maybe PP should start a register of these abreviations, and people who use them can add anything new they think up. Lets start a dictionary of terminology, and how it is used in planning terms, this would be very handy, and pre-empt a lot of unneccessary questions.

Hi Jerry,

The golden weld, and the the golden rule is very different and yet not as dissimular in terms if you think about it. The golden rule is something, that if you can understand it, and there may be hundreds, maybe millions of them, which enables you do perform a task in a risk free manner, and always get it right.

A Golden weld, is the last weld in a system, where the normal quality procedures cannot be carried out in the normal way, and that as a result of all quality requirements having been met, on previous welds, this one is accepted, on the basis of historical data. The golden rule uses the same principle. If all chefs have founf the sume succes with a recipe, by one simple method, it becomes a golden rule, ie the quality will be right based on historcal facts. There is always still the possibility of a golden weld or a dish failing, despite the history, but in 99.9% of the cases it is successful. Golden is only a benchmark of quality in both instances.

Therefore in the instance of planning, which some people see as the "black Art" of projects, the rules are funny, like listening, asking questions if you don’t know, etc.
Hoipe this explains it a little bit

Regards,

Philip

Philip.
Raci charts? Some one somewhere down the corridor must have been on a course as RACI Charts - matrix of activities versus people filled in by Responible, Accountable Consulted Informed.(RACI) and deceided its teh bees knees.
Tendering stacking up and very shot handed.

Clive

Very similar. A little more scientifically philosphical maybe. Or should that be philosophocally scientific.

Think I’ll shut up now...

Nige

Well, I for one cant wait to refer, with superior airs of course, to the said cat situation at todays Speak Sh&te Meeting commonly known as our Planning Meeting.
This is excellent relatiation for making 7 of us in 2 locations sit in a confratel and complete a RASI chart.
I am fast loosing the will to work but a quick run through of domestic economics dictates I must.

My golden rules

"Ask a question if you dont know"
"People who dont make mistakes dont make decisions"
"If you get 90% of what you do right thats a pretty good average"
Im interested in the cat 2

Clive

Hi Chris

I think all those rules should apply.

Not forgetting Shroedegger’s Cat!

Nige

Surely the Golden Rule is...

There aren’t any rules.

Remember - Murphy’s Law? If anything can go wrong it will? Nige’s Law - Murphy was an optimist!

Hi,
Maybe this word cannot be use anymore("One character says "IN THIS GAME ALWAYS REMEMBER THE GOLDEN RULE: HE WHO OWNS THE GOLD MAKES THE RULES").
Now days most of people have gold. Maybe U forgot to put "MANY" or uhave to change " HE WHO OWNS THE RULES MAKES THE GOLD". he he he.....
I’m glad u back Charles.

general rule of thumb on receiving an ITT:

For every hour you spend reading the Client info, Specs and Drawings, you’ll save a day being sent on wild goose chases by your PM

Listen look learn
Never stop doing that
If you dont know ask
Improve your communication skills
Look at people when you are presenting to ensure they are still awake
See if anybody is following your programme if not ask WHY
Keep it simple, remenber the pesron using the output is not a planner
Alaways alaways always look at the drawings and spec
Dont assume the clients milestones are correct justify them to yourself
Understand simple output criterias and use them

Don’t give away the float - sell it

The people with the gold make the rules.