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EOT Entitelment

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Ellie R
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My appology if this one has been discussed before.

I am in the middle of discussion with my clkient about our entitelment for an extension of time. 

Our client asked us to send our price for extera work that was needed for an equipment installation work and instructed us to not to proceed for further work except receiving another direction by company to proceed. Atthe poit of time the equipment was landed and we hold the job. The date for landing was 20th Aug, and the latest start was 10th Sep. we hold the work and resequenced the front work due to client instruction for holding the job. We received next direction much later from the client  to proceed.

for my delay impact analysis I selected the most recent updated schedule with the data date before 20th Aug. However, our client beilieve I should select the most updated schedule prior to 10th Sep (our late start date ) when any further delay can make it critical.

Not prety sure what is our entitelment? 

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Ellie R
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Make sense now. Thank you so much.

Mike Testro
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Hi Ellie

Just change the variation tasks into milestones to show the situation prior to the event and then set them to their as built duration to show the delay effect.

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Mike T.

Ellie R
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if the new activities remain in the schedule how can I asess their impact on the schedule?

As of my knowledge, after adding the delay activities into a schedule and linking them to impacted activities, then you need to compare the result with the schedule prior to impact to see the EOT.

If I dont remove the activities in the schedule and just move it to fragnet schedule and ajust the duration to its actual duration, I can not get the real EOT by comparing it with the scheule prior to impact as they are already axist in it.

dose it make sense? (Hope I explained clearly)

Mike Testro
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Hi Ellie

The new tasks for the variation are part of the delay analysis event fragnet - they should remain in the programme but moved into the fragnet section of the event.

Code them to suit the Event Nr.

If the duration of the new tasks was first estimated the durations should be changed to the actual duration.

The progress update should then be set just before the date the event impacted.

Best regards

Mike Testro

Ellie R
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Thanks for your response. The problem is we are at the back end of the project and this discussion related to something that happend about 5 months ago. I can asess the next updates to see what  the result is.

The other problem with this asessment is, as per client request, we should use the next updated schedule for the EOT asessment. However, in the next updated schedules some activities have been adedd related to that delay in the schedule ( as new scope or variation) and impacted activities have been pushed out, but at the point of time that planners adedd that activities ( for extera grouting for equipment) there was no proper forecast for activity duration.

For EOT asessment on the next updated schedule, first I have to remove the activities for that delay ( that have been adedd as a variation or new scope of work) and then asess the real impact again. Is that right? 

Mike Testro
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Hi Ellie - Welcome to planning planet.

You have a classic suspension of work situation.

The simplest way to demonstrate the effect is to put non work days on a calendar and apply this to all the tasks affected by the stoppage.

Your progress update shoud be set just before the work restarted - not when it stopped - but if all the work stopped it wont make any difference.

I hope this helps.

Best reards

Mike Testro

Ellie R
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In fact the question is should I select the most updated schedule prior to the last start date for impacted activity or start date of impacted activity? if the it is the most updated schedule( current schedule) prior to the start date of impacted activity ( which I belive that is the case), how should be my position for arguing with client? what is my best shot?