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Thu, 2010-03-04 15:00
Rola Sabbah
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Dear,
i’m trying to prepare a cliam for my project, i took a course, and it was very intesive, there is many ways for doing the analysis and its complicatd.
my first question: there is a lot of events, such as changing in deing, changing in sequencing, suspension by the owner, and others, should i make them in one claim or not?
how can calculate the prolonging cost/? can any body give me the details ? thanx.
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Mon, 2010-03-08 00:56
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Samer Zawaydeh
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Dear Santhosh,

Looks like a good approach, you are evaluating what you have (in your case, the Contractor is Late) and he has a claim, so you eliminating the claim with the delay panelty money to some extent.

Of course it is not the norm. Rest assure that strong and aggressive Contractors will not usually put themselves in this position. They are in the business to make money. First, they will try very hard to put themselves ahead of schedule most of time, second, they will claim for every single extra resource (Material, manpower, or equipment) that they installed at site and make money out of it.

With kind regards,

Samer
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Mon, 2010-03-08 00:47
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Santhosh kumar Na...
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Sameer,
While reviewing contractors claim for extension you can very well find many concurrent delays and also delay purely due to contractors delay. Their final settlement normally achieved thorough gentlemen agrrement and on the table discussion. Almost all the cases i have done (Last 5 years Im concentrating only in claims) and in real practical world (may be in my experience only), we didnt give any money - Preliminaries- to the contractors, on the otherhand they were releaved from paying penalty for delay due to the extented duration.
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Sun, 2010-03-07 15:02
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Samer Zawaydeh
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Dear Santhosh,

Contractors take the risk of a project to make money. Granting time without money compensation is not always an acceptable solution. It depends on the claim. One solution will not answer all the problems.

With kind regards,

Samer
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Sun, 2010-03-07 01:59
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Santhosh kumar Na...
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Hi Rola
As mentioned here by moderator, this has to be preapred by an experienced person.
According to me these are important.
Collect all the documents, delay event etc.
Plug this delay events in the approved schedule and provide proper link.
Compare the same impact on updated shedule too
Upon incorporating your additonal actitivites in schdule your critical path may change study carefully the longest path (Before & after impact of delay)

Make comparison table etc, Document is very much important so collect as much as supporting documents.
Regarding cost, ofcourse if there is any variation from original scope you will get additonal money. The money related to extended duration in only about the preliminaries whih you can ask upon approval of EOT. Normally "Me" recommend to my client that "May grand extension to contract without cost implication"
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Fri, 2010-03-05 03:40
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Samer Zawaydeh
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Dear Rola,

I did a small search on the net and found the following site:

www.dot.ca.gov/hq/construc/manual2001/chapter5/chp5_4.pdf


It has a very good example starting on Page 55, it will show you exactly what you have to prepare. This is your part of the job. Preparation and organization of the paperwork. The senior can make the parts move together.

Good luck,

With kind regards,

Samer
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Thu, 2010-03-04 15:43
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Samer Zawaydeh
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Dear Rola,

I posted the article on the "Critical Path" so that you can read it.

With kind regards,

Samer
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Thu, 2010-03-04 15:18
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Mike Testro
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Hi Rola

Taking a course does not make you a delay analyst.

You are out of your depth and could cause more harm to your employer with a badly presented claim.

Go back to your line manager and seek advice and guidance - then get professional advice.

Best regards

Mike Testro.
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Thu, 2010-03-04 15:17
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Samer Zawaydeh
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Dear Rola,

Start by dividing each into a separate folder. Get all the supporting documents from site. And get all the management correspondance, minutes of meetings, etc.

The three most important factors are: documents, documents, and documents.

Once you have all the supporting document for each delay event, you can study its impact on the Approved Schedule.

Please do this and give it to someone who has the necessary experience. This is a lot of work and usually done by seniors.

You can move the small building blocks of the Claim, but you can’t build the Claim at this stage.

With kind regards,

Samer
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