http://www.staff.ncl.ac.uk/stephen.scott/

http://www.rics.org/Practiceareas/Management/Disputes/Consequences_of_SO...

David,

Yeah, I know - I’m a member of both organisations, and know them both well. I know them to be very similar, if not identical, in their objectives. I was making the point because I was bemused that each seemed to be labouring under misconceptions about the other.

I’m well aware of your research into delay and disruption. In fact, a paper that you wrote in the 1990s that I recall appeared in the journal "Construction Management & Economics" was one of my first ever introductions to the subject!!

Regards

Anders.

David,

Interesting that you should mention that might be an objection for the SCL to associate with a "disputes" society...

In the past, I understand that the Building Disputes Practitioners Society has equally taken a high moral ground about associating with the Society of Construction "Law" - on the basis that it is intended to be an inclusive organisation for practitioners across the industry - not just lawyers!!

Regards

Anders.

AS A LAST SHOUT

YOUR FIRST THREAD IS AN INSULT TO THE

AUSTRALIAN

walang salamat sa iyo !!!

in english

no thanks to you

Toby,

I know what David intent in his first post.

But, as he said, "I tempted fate"

So, David is practically making an opening gambit, baiting me.

Also, I want to quetion SCL on the way they handle the eot protocol here in PP

Beside, if you stay in this planet for too long, you will know that idea jump from the original intent of the thread to other idea, then to other idea, then go back to the original intent, and so on and so forth.

Hello David,

I did think for a while on how to respond to SCL in general and the EOT protocal by SCL in particular.

WOW, I love this.

Basically I got this funny experience woring in a project team as project control engineer wherein the first email i got on my first day is the EOT protocol from SCL. I really wonder how it comes to our office. I’m working in the project management.

As my stay in that project (I resigned long time ago) move with time, I got a feeling that the contractor is deliberately programming activities to start too early with too much float and deliberately delaying the starts of activitiies with matching letters "... we reserve our rights to claim for extension of time with corresponding prolongation cost blah blah blah and blah, etc...."

To make the story short, IMHO, the EOT protocol from SCL is the antichrist (666)to sound project management principles.

Why this is so???????

SCL don’t want to make mockery of the EOT protocol, but there is no way, that protocal will improve unless it is bombarded with tough question from project management practioner.

In fairness, anyone within the project management higher management thinking in line with EOT protocal from SCL will definitely fail the project.

David, do you want to rock and roll. This time we will focus on specific issues within the EOT protocol and compare it with other practice from the English’s cousin, the Americans, specifically, AACEI.

Charlie

Dear all,

Unless I am hugely mistaken, the UK SCL is not simply seeking to set up an Australian branch of the UK SCL – it is encouraging a stand-alone, independent Australian society in the same way that SCLs in other jurisdictions (e.g. UAE, Hong Kong, New Zealand, Malaysia, Singapore etc.) have been established. As it happens, however, there is already established in Australia the Building Dispute Practitioners’ Society, which is based in Melbourne (see www.bdps.com.au). The BDPS, I understand, is long-established (it pre-dates the UK SCL) and well supported, with close ties to the Bar, major firms, judiciary, academia, etc., serving basically an identical function to that of the SCL in the UK. But it is only really in Victoria at present – although I do understand it may be considering setting up elsewhere, using its members’ plentiful ties with dispute practitioners in other states as a springboard for doing so.

Not that I purport to speak for either the SCL or the BDPS!)

Regards

Anders.