I love planning.

there is no way for me to give up my planning skills

Hi Charlie,

Yes it is my mantra with more statements in the same style.

I share your wish on working together. Being you now on the Dark side (Project manager side -got this comment from “conference in Las Vegas”), I would like to work with you on the side of Planners who believe in the opportunity of doing things better.

From Beethoven, please play the Symphony no 9, and try to see the film “copying Beethoven”.

Cheers,
Carmen

Does grade 8 count?

If you are after the money and you believe QS get paid more be a QS

If you feel that life is a balance between work and play and enjoying your work is important to you then stay a planner

As to whether having fun as a planner is directly related to teaching the piano I cannot answer this but I have seen a great number of happy planners who appear fullfilled, I have also seen a great number of sad QS.

Remember if the job is less satisfying you will have to pay people more to do it.

You are right carmen,
in addition to; It is very distructive for a planner that thinks he knows everything,
like a mouse on the back of an elephant, and thinks he is also an elephant..
HE should Remember.. he knows is some way but he is nothing in another way.. no one is expert in planning keep in mind..Chap

Uly,

Figthing is the product of negative emotion called intense hatred. It is the absence of tolerance. Emotion feel by XXXX

Fun is the positive emotion of life. Just relax, be cool. There is nothing to boast really in our beautiful planet since eventually what we learned became things of the past.

As the wise sage say "there are three things that last: faith, hope and love. And the greatest is love".

We love one another and there will be no fighting.

I agree with Nieman. But we have to be realistic: there are half bake planners in our plannet, some are even just good as wedding planners, like YYYY !!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Cheers

Joseph

Joseph

It would be great: Fried chicken flying directly into your mouth, gallons of wine, beautiful girls and 5000 a week. But if you’ll work as you described you won’t have fun any more.

Fun with my work is: do I like to do my job? Do I like to go to work in the morning? Do I like to see the result of my work? Do I like my team, my collegues? ...Not every day of course, but in general. For me this would not be as a QS person.
Have a nice working day!
Dieter

Charlie,

What is my idea of having fun? Walking on Dartmoor or the Yorkshire Dales, reading a good book, a night out with friends, all sorts of things. As for what my salary is, lets just hold fire on that for a moment, as for matching your offer, I’m not sure what your offer is.

If it’s $3000 per month plus giving piano lessons, no chance I’m afraid, I can’t play the piano. $5000 per month with a project that appears to be going down the tubes (is that the project you’re managing, Charlie?) no thanks.

Strange though it may seem Charlie, I enjoy what I do and, without boasting, I’m good at it. Because of this rewards and opportunities have come my way and I’ve grabbed them whenever I could. This has meant progression, advancement and, what you seem to be obsessed with, money, and I’m still having fun.

Now I’m afraid I’m going to have to be a little bit brutal, you ask can I match your offer. Which offer Charlie? $5000 per month? I make that in a week, so stop trying to score points and start managing your project.

Chris Oggham

Have fun means:

A planner paid 3,000 USD per month net with P3 schedule with Activities not link. No update since all activities will go to data date. No need to report to project manager what planner is doing. planner just have fun and wait for his monthly salary to come. planner got part time job doing piano lesson to the community he work, 100 dollars per hour.

Have fun (less fun) means a planner paid 5,000 USD per month with activities link, no resources loaded, no cost, monthly update only. Provide excel charts (S-curve) not link to primavera update. No need to tell Project Manager what gong on with the planning activities, it may ruin the project manager day since the project is delays by 75 percent of the original schedule.

Any planner want to have fun, please let me know and sent your cv to me.

CHRIS what is your idea of HAVE FUN.

How much is the salary.

Can you match my offer.

Cheers,

Joseph

Hello to everyone,

I dont think so that it is worth moving to QS. I think this is a demotion.

The best option is project manager.

Believe me guys, I lot of project managers dont know what the nerdy planners sitting beside him is doing. Or what the P3 planning is all about.

As project managers with planning background, P3, it is a value added in the way project implementation will have a new dimension.

Believe me because Im here already.

Cheers,

Joseph

But of course individual preference should be respective.

Not all persons got the aptitude, skills, leadership, training, mindset, etc. of a project manager. A lot tried project manager job but few are chosen to deliver the best ever.

Hi Burley

Is QS really an alternative? If yes, I suppose, Scheduler wasn’t the right job. A scheduler always is in close contact to projects, involved in their development. She/He is included to create something new - more or less. I like this job.
QS means to create frames for everything and to put everything into this frame - mightbe I exaggerate a little. This reminds me to greec mythology: the bed of Procrustes.
QS is required by law, somebody must do it. I prefer scheduling.
Change to earn some cent/penny... more? I must like to go to work with an appropriate salary of course. I wouldn’t change it for a job I don’t like.

BUT: People are different, so are their expectations.

Regards to all

Dieter