Hi Dieter,

I am not having a go at you but rather for the greater audiances. Also I misread your underline message.

I know P3 is a good system indeed it bring me years of joys and opporturnities, but its time to move on, even it can still do the same old job.

We, human is different from other animal because we can use tools and refining it over the years.

Cheers

Alex

That means if your company is only have one project then they should you P3??

We planner have to look wider, otherwise we will be stuck in our box. Yes you might only running one project at a time but your company will hundreds if not thousand of projects, all different in nature,risk, ROI, time ....

To manage all these, they will need a effective platform. If we do not move on to the entreprise system, we will be slowly phaseout. My advice is learn what the new system offer, and try to understand what it can provide to the company not only yourself.

HTH

Alex

Hi
sorry to jump on the waggon again. We use 6.1. No problem to delete curtains. As far as I remember this issue was solved by a service pack for 6.0, but I’m not sure.
P6 is just a new release of P5 with some web-enhancements.
As for the comparison with P3: In my humble opinion: If you have a single project with your resources only working for you, no needs for overall reporting, it will be convenient to use P3.
Another item: After we changed from P3 to P5 in Jan/07 life became easier - time to create a plan, resource planning, reporting.
Regards
Dieter

It will get fixed in the next SP, there are probably still bugs in P3.

The nature of development companies is to rush software into a’live’ environment and to use the users for testing.

Plus, do you ever use curtains? i never use curtains.

P5 is far superior to P3 in its functionality and scalability.

P6 is only worth using if you have an organization that has high project management maturity and board level buy-in.

But...P5 maintenance is ending at the end of this year so P6 is the best Primavera tool to upgrade to.
(It just costs loads!!)

I Agree what Andrew Chan said, P3 programme always benefitial to planner during planning, and to track back where does the critical path fall into so that all activities link to each others. However, 95% Building Contractor Project Manager don’t know what benefit does P3 provide.

Remaining 5% (including my boss) like P3 as planning tool to run construction projects and link most critical relationships to all activities as possible.

I have experienced in P3 for more than 8 years, however, times is required to convert me from p3 -> p5.

In this connection, I can’t find out what new features in P5 is benefit than P3 during planning in construction project.

All brother, please advise before I go into P5.
Thanks a lot

Haris

First of all, I believe P5 will be out of maintenance very soon - Sept 08. And P6 6.0 / 6.1 is very different.

As for recommendation, I recommend P6 6.0 for now, simply because its a stable enviornment, it improves a lot in the web interface / import/export / High level resource planning and many other (management & reporting features). (especially if you want to get update from the Engineer remotely the web is a Great Features)

Andrew,

I can see planner is finding very difficult to accpet from P3 to P5 or P6. Simply because planner’s function becomes much more restricted, ways to complete task become different and they don’t get the benefits. Thats why very few planner support to go enterprise. However, management (senior or Project Manager) do sees the benefits. They can now understand what is the plan represents, and they have access to the latest project plan, see and delays do the what-if... and much much more. As for the foreman, they benefits too (if you have the myPrimavera P6web).

And tell you what, this trend will keep on going until the entire program become a web based program. If you smart enough you should consider ride on it b4 you lost track.

Good Luck

Alex

Hi Haris
P6 is the current, P5 the previous release. If you migrate, P6 is the only way (Version 6.1, because there are modifications in the database and the web access plus some functional improvements) The upgrade P6 to 6.1 seems difficult for the server..
On the documentation cd, you’ll find a pdf like: From P3 3.1 to P6 which is an excellent reference manual.
The only reason for a step backwards (P6 --> P5) is license issue for SQL-Server. Many operations with a big database access (assign codes, resources) run much faster. More procedures are processed on the server.
Good luck
Dieter