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Fundamental understanding of P6 date fields

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Peter Holroyd
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I asked the question in Linkedin of schedulers - do you really understand what the software is doing wrt to date fields when you press F9? No response, so i thought i'd asked it here as well. Lets start with explaing es, ls, ps and ef lf and pf calculated date fields.

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Peter Holroyd
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sorry i was asking how P6 calciulates these fields not what they represent

for instance start activity 1  es date is a calculated field from the project start date which is an input field or data date if you have missed it.

activity 2 es date is activity 1 + duration of activty 1 which is an input field + any input logic (with chosen calendar) between them + activity 1 calendar + any internal and external contraints input + any resource / calendar levelling input data. P6 converts duration days or hours to unit minutes (or is it 0.6 mins?) and then does the calculation in minutes based on calendar working input hours (converted to minutes) per day and displays the result in the chosen format......... and so on.

Is that it or did I miss something?

Read Ron Winter's before replying.

Bhavinbhai Lakhani
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Hello Peter,

 

1. ES: The Early Start date of an activity is the earliest point in time when the activity can logically begin based on its predecessors and any constraints.

2. LS: The Late Start date of an activity is the latest point in time by which an activity must start to avoid delaying the project finish date.

3. EF: The Early Finish date of an activity is the earliest point in time when the activity can logically be completed based on its ES and duration.

4. LF: The Late Finish date of an activity is the latest point in time by which an activity must finish to avoid delaying the project finish date.

5. PS: The Planned Start date of an activity is often user-defined and represents the initially planned or baseline start date for the activity.

6. PF: The Planned Finish date of an activity is user-defined and represents the initially planned or baseline finish date for the activity.

Critical Path: Activities that have zero float (difference between LF and EF, or LS and ES) are on the critical path. The critical path determines the minimum project duration and any delay in critical path activities will directly delay the project finish date.

These date fields (ES, LS, PS, EF, LF, PF) are fundamental in project scheduling software as they provide crucial information about activity timing, dependencies, flexibility, and criticality. Understanding how these fields are calculated and their significance helps schedulers in managing and controlling project schedules effectively.

Thanks,

 

david kelly
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Well, Peter, given that I have been answering questions about it for 20 years, I suspect many planners using P6 have not done their homework. There are some interesting things P6 does with Dates. I remember a forensic job I had, where an extra 100k+ manhours appeared one month, but the extra manhours had planned dates of three months previously. This demonstrated to us that the plan had been ‘forked’, and the contractor was providing their client with a plan missing those hours for three months. When someone added the extra work, it was given an Actual Start date in the past, but the planned dates were held at the Data Date when the activities were added.
Peter Holroyd
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David, thanks for ref paper (hadn't come across  this paper only the Understanding P6 Dates one) - says everything and more. Do you thing P6 users understand any of this?

I first came across these problems in the late 90's when trying to match a subcontractor's stand alone P6 version with a company system one. They kept giving different dates even though we had agreed major default settings. We realised that to match systems you had to specify every setting that P6 had even if we were sure that the the setting had no effect on the F9 analysis.

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Tried to answer this already. I can't think of anything to add to this: https://www.ronwinterconsulting.com/Understanding_P6_Dates.pdf Excellent.
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Tried to answer this already. I can't think of anything to add to this: https://www.ronwinterconsulting.com/Understanding_P6_Dates.pdf Excellent.