Very well put and applicable to all aspects of planning: even systems which appear complicated can be found to be simple if broken down into its consituent parts.
It never ceases to amaze me within my orginisation when I see porgrammes which inlcude only general first and second fix activitiies for mechanical and electrical installations (with no defenition of first and second fix either, which only adds the readers confusion). Especially when these activites can represent a third of the project value. I am curently pushing for my employer to cover the cost of a basic course in building MEP services for myself so that I might add more value to our project planning in these areas.
It would aid me greatly in the interim if you were able to forward a copy of the study you did for CIOB on to me. I have sent you a private meassage with my email in the event that you are able to.
Regards, Robert Hughes.
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Submitted by Joel Gilbert on Tue, 2014-01-28 04:19
MEP Planning is very easy if you follow the following basic principles.
You don't need to be an MEP Engineer - you only need to know that MEP works are one dimensional whereas structures are three dimensional.
There are three things in MEP - Liquid - Air - Power.
These are contained in Pipes - Ducts - Cables
These go in two directions within the structure - Horizontally - Vertically
Then there are the interface stages with the construction works - you can't fix any MEP until the structure is ready to accept it.
There is a piece of kit for each of the three things and these need a place in the structure for them to be fixed.
You need to plan for each piece of kit in an individual standalone system from start to finish - forget about 1st fix 2nd fix etc.
So AHU system 1 you will need - Horizontal Ducts under the soffit - vertical ducts in the risers - Fix Kit - Fix Outlets.
These will be installed as soon as the structure interface allows - there are no links between the stages but each stage links to a milestone - ready to connect - the milestone links FS to the Connect System task- which then links to another milestone ready for system test.
When all the Air systems are connected you are ready for the Wild Air test - which also needs Power.
It is a logical progression and you need to study the schematics to get it right.
Don't forget the test and commissioning which come in two stages - Static test for each level when ALL three systems are complete - allow at least 5 days for this - Overall test and commissioning when the structure is complete - allow at least 30 days for this.
Send me a private message with your email and I wil send you a method study that I prepared for the CIOB.l
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14 years 11 monthsDear Mike,Well explained,
Dear Mike,
Well explained, thanks for this info. Awaiting the work info.
Warm Regards,
Sunil.
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13 yearsHi Mike, I am new to this MEP
Hi Mike,
I am new to this MEP Planning domain. It would be of great help if you could share me the details mentioned in your above reply to my mail ID.
rsbhush@gmail.com
Thanks In Advance,
Bhushan R S
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13 yearsHi Mike, I am new to this MEP
Hi Mike,
I am new to this MEP Planning domain. It would be of great help if you could share me the details mentioned in your above reply to my mail ID.
rsbhush@gmail.com
Thanks In Advance,
Bhushan R S
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11 years 6 monthshai mike testrocan u send the
hai mike testro
can u send the complete details of mep activites
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11 years 8 monthsHi, brother ,can share ?
Hi, brother ,can share ? ongkokpeng80@gmail.com
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14 years 4 monthsMike;I have also sent you a
Mike;
I have also sent you a msg with my email adress.It would be a great adition to my knowledge being a MEP Planner.
Regards
AB
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19 yearsMike, Very well put and
Mike,
Very well put and applicable to all aspects of planning: even systems which appear complicated can be found to be simple if broken down into its consituent parts.
It never ceases to amaze me within my orginisation when I see porgrammes which inlcude only general first and second fix activitiies for mechanical and electrical installations (with no defenition of first and second fix either, which only adds the readers confusion). Especially when these activites can represent a third of the project value. I am curently pushing for my employer to cover the cost of a basic course in building MEP services for myself so that I might add more value to our project planning in these areas.
It would aid me greatly in the interim if you were able to forward a copy of the study you did for CIOB on to me. I have sent you a private meassage with my email in the event that you are able to.
Regards, Robert Hughes.
Member for
22 years 5 monthsYipee yeah, thanks Mike now
Yipee yeah, thanks Mike now I'm a planner
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19 years 10 monthsHi VarmaMEP Planning is very
Hi Varma
MEP Planning is very easy if you follow the following basic principles.
You don't need to be an MEP Engineer - you only need to know that MEP works are one dimensional whereas structures are three dimensional.
There are three things in MEP - Liquid - Air - Power.
These are contained in Pipes - Ducts - Cables
These go in two directions within the structure - Horizontally - Vertically
Then there are the interface stages with the construction works - you can't fix any MEP until the structure is ready to accept it.
There is a piece of kit for each of the three things and these need a place in the structure for them to be fixed.
You need to plan for each piece of kit in an individual standalone system from start to finish - forget about 1st fix 2nd fix etc.
So AHU system 1 you will need - Horizontal Ducts under the soffit - vertical ducts in the risers - Fix Kit - Fix Outlets.
These will be installed as soon as the structure interface allows - there are no links between the stages but each stage links to a milestone - ready to connect - the milestone links FS to the Connect System task- which then links to another milestone ready for system test.
When all the Air systems are connected you are ready for the Wild Air test - which also needs Power.
It is a logical progression and you need to study the schematics to get it right.
Don't forget the test and commissioning which come in two stages - Static test for each level when ALL three systems are complete - allow at least 5 days for this - Overall test and commissioning when the structure is complete - allow at least 30 days for this.
Send me a private message with your email and I wil send you a method study that I prepared for the CIOB.l
I hope that helps.
Best regards
Mike Testro