5 to 10years I think its about time, its suit with my age, could be as Advisor or Senior Project controller which i need for my memory backup about planning and control.

Thanks to Andrew for the plug of my article (written with a colleague Lee Cookson).

Raja... I do post in PP quite frequently, I can’t come in every day but every now and again I have a flurry of activity (usually to cast stones at Charlie’s posts).

As for the article, Lee and I were asked to write it at short notice and keep it brief and to the point. Mostly that means we had to make big generalisations and not to get too deep into the topics - after all, it is a beginners guide!

Now, Andrew F is quite a different chap, a planning and legal brain as big as a Primavera’s world-wide sales. I know he has said ’don’t hold your breath’ but we have been discussing something lately that he is very knowledgable and passionate about - a bit of arm twisting and 5 or 10 years should see it on your book shelves. I hope that is sufficient a tease to either upset Andrew or stir him into action!

By the way, the wine isn’t that good... I might be able to exchange it for a one way flight from Stansted to Newquay (off-peak of course).

Don’t hold your breath, unlikely I’d say.

If you want a useful but breif overview of delay analysis have a look at the following article:

http://www.driverconsult.com/articles/article_pdf_25.pdf

You could win a case of wine too if you enter the competition!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Hi raja,

If you any white paper supporting this, please let us know or may be any other book.

For me at least (I am not sure, I am 100% correct) collapsed As-Built is sort of a post-mortem analysis and not be used for controlling.

The way you have written, seems everybody has gone astray

Hope you can help us better!!

i’m not sure if you’re still the same Raja that i know the first time i joined this forum;

i believe this refers to schedule, the one that has been done (As-Built), yes, including drawings (if your contract includes engineering), and you’ll need to refer also to your As-Built Drawings if consistent with your As-Built Schedule!

what’s the point? (i’m lost!)

Can somebody please summarize the points discussed in this topic and we need to soecify our taget from this discussion.
Thanks

thats only for control your work.. not analysis, analysis is about how the sequence and the work relate have the interface to run smooth which how u going to solve the matter which involved procedure, Spec, Risk analysis(HSE) and etc, .

if i not mistaken u are going to do roll-up WBS as per contract, if that case u could put milestone for each As-built ETA and waiting milestone as per Field needs.

thats the way to control the work activities.

hope this will help

As mentioned earlier it is also called as As-Built but-for analysis.

As Anoon has said, it is going back and checking what has happened in the project; marking out the as-built path.

But only those events are considered, which are at the employer’s risk and are identified & extracted from the as-built programme to show how long the work would have taken, but for the events at the employer’s risk.

This is what i read somewhere, and think I am right.

Cheers,

Raviraj A Bhedase

please allow me to put it this way: "Collapsed As-Built" - meaning it is already done, and you knock it down again to find exactly what has happened!

Try building a structure so that when you finished, you demolish it in sequenced to your As-Built Plan going backwards this time.

Please advise..anyone..?

Hi Trevor / Anoon,

Collapsed As-Built Method has nothing to do with the critical path. You are absolutely right in saying that if we have actual start and finish dates, we dont have float for the activities. (A more of a common sense)

This thread was started to get the meaning of COLLAPSED AS-BUILT METHOD. This method basically does the post-mortem of the work done and rather than any planning for the activties completed.

Thats why it is also called as As-Built But-for-Analysis.

Hope i am clear this time around. If u know any further details, plz throw some light on it.

Cheers,

Raviraj A Bhedase

I don’t expect much agreement on this but please consider:

The idea of trying to work out a Critical Path after the Tasks are done strikes me as a bit ridiculous. The concept of a Critical Path can only apply to Tasks which are planned, which are in the future of some reference date. Anything which has already happened has got actual start and finish dates and cannot have any ES, EF, LS, LF Free Float or Total Float.
Sure, you can look at the actual sequence in which things were done and assert that Tasks were done later than they could have been done (ie, nothing was preventing them from being done earlier), and perhaps that they therefore delayed their Successors, but it is a weak, subjective argument and easily countered.

there you go again Khawaja, i almost collapse in your previous thread; but can you explain what a "Collapsed As Built Method" is?