With the organisation I work for, if you are responsible to the Managing Board for the whole of the project, you are the Project Manager. If you direct a team of specialists contributing to part or the whole of the project, you are a Project Team Leader. They tend to keep it fairly simple which I think is probably a good thing.
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Submitted by Shahzad Munawar on Tue, 2004-11-02 02:46
Project Coordinator, Project Scheduler, Project Planner sounds more appropriate that Planning Engineer, for the works involving consulting with the site engineers and later updating your programme to reflect the project status for the management. You must be well skilled in the use of scheduling programme.
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Submitted by Murray Woolf on Fri, 2003-12-26 16:28
The question of position title is not insignificant. in the early days, we were called planner/schedulers. Then the two were split apart. Then the two became somewhat interchangeable.
If we look at a sister track, finance, consider 100 years ago when the person who counted the beans was called a "bookkeeper." The title was descriptive of the primary activity. But at some point, the bookkeeper learned to do more than simply record transactions. He created budgets and monitored spending. He was now called an "accountant," because he/she could account for how the money was being spent. Today, the upper end of that career line is called CFO, and beneath that position is finance manager.
In the world of Time Management, an equivalent title might be Time Manager, but most folks see the immediate pomposity of the title, and look elsewhere. Perhaps Time Analyst might be more descriptive while also sounding a little less like God.
Interesting subject though.
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Submitted by Mehdi Rashidi … on Wed, 2003-11-19 10:42
Okay thanks guy i will think on. Hopefully i will be getting more money too! Unfortunately i am the only planner in the office so its hard to guage really.
I thought about Junior Project Planner moving on to Senior Project Planner but if my boss isnt in i am responsible for his duties something which a junior wouldnt be able to do. He is the project team leader over everyone so not really just associated with the planning department... oh its all too complicated.
Would sugesst you review the titles of equivalent grades of people in your organisation, as a completely new title has no standing and carries no weight.
For example, if you are following the American way and your peers are VPs then follow Bernards suggestion. If your company has Engineer, Senior Engineer etc. Become a PM, Senior PM etc.
Always remember, if you go in asking fo a raise and come out with only a new title, youve been screwed ;)
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Submitted by Bernard Ertl on Tue, 2003-01-14 09:49
I am afraid i cant help you, but decided to hijack your thread as it sort of fits in with a request which i have!
I currently work for a research and development unit, specializing in digital electronics and i am responsible for a team of ten software engineers. I dont have a formal planning qualification but have been trained inhouse. My manager is very happy with my work and has asked me for ideas for a new job title so it becomes more relevant to the work i do ( i used to be a marketer) but i am not too sure. What sort of title can i benefit from?, in terms of getting promoted as my skill base improves as well as being an attrative employee to outside industry should i decide to move companies.
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By the way Molly,
Let them have a go, you have a buddy
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Hi Molly,
My wife is a marketer, the planning skills required in marketing is the same as projects, do not believe the BBB.
Nice too meet a friendly face:-)
Regards
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How about;
Junior Planner ---> Project Planner ---> Senior Project Planner ---> Project Analyst (Assistant Project Controller) ---> Project Controller ---> Project Advisor (Head of Department).
Promoted to each position based on experience, interpersonal skill, communication and etc every 5 years.
Regards.
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Molly,
With the organisation I work for, if you are responsible to the Managing Board for the whole of the project, you are the Project Manager. If you direct a team of specialists contributing to part or the whole of the project, you are a Project Team Leader. They tend to keep it fairly simple which I think is probably a good thing.
Chris Oggham
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In my view for Scheduler, the best term which we can use is “ Project Coordinator” and “Project Planner” and these two are mostly and commonly used.
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Project Coordinator, Project Scheduler, Project Planner sounds more appropriate that Planning Engineer, for the works involving consulting with the site engineers and later updating your programme to reflect the project status for the management. You must be well skilled in the use of scheduling programme.
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The question of position title is not insignificant. in the early days, we were called planner/schedulers. Then the two were split apart. Then the two became somewhat interchangeable.
If we look at a sister track, finance, consider 100 years ago when the person who counted the beans was called a "bookkeeper." The title was descriptive of the primary activity. But at some point, the bookkeeper learned to do more than simply record transactions. He created budgets and monitored spending. He was now called an "accountant," because he/she could account for how the money was being spent. Today, the upper end of that career line is called CFO, and beneath that position is finance manager.
In the world of Time Management, an equivalent title might be Time Manager, but most folks see the immediate pomposity of the title, and look elsewhere. Perhaps Time Analyst might be more descriptive while also sounding a little less like God.
Interesting subject though.
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Project Manager
Coordinator Manager
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Hey, if youre THE planner in your company, why are you still a guest. Join PlanningPlannet !
If you are THE planner, go for Planning Engineer or Planning Manager. You can always tag on the senior later.
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Okay thanks guy i will think on. Hopefully i will be getting more money too! Unfortunately i am the only planner in the office so its hard to guage really.
I thought about Junior Project Planner moving on to Senior Project Planner but if my boss isnt in i am responsible for his duties something which a junior wouldnt be able to do. He is the project team leader over everyone so not really just associated with the planning department... oh its all too complicated.
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Would sugesst you review the titles of equivalent grades of people in your organisation, as a completely new title has no standing and carries no weight.
For example, if you are following the American way and your peers are VPs then follow Bernards suggestion. If your company has Engineer, Senior Engineer etc. Become a PM, Senior PM etc.
Always remember, if you go in asking fo a raise and come out with only a new title, youve been screwed ;)
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Project Team Leader
Project Manager
Vice President - Development
Big Cheese :)
HTH!
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I am afraid i cant help you, but decided to hijack your thread as it sort of fits in with a request which i have!
I currently work for a research and development unit, specializing in digital electronics and i am responsible for a team of ten software engineers. I dont have a formal planning qualification but have been trained inhouse. My manager is very happy with my work and has asked me for ideas for a new job title so it becomes more relevant to the work i do ( i used to be a marketer) but i am not too sure. What sort of title can i benefit from?, in terms of getting promoted as my skill base improves as well as being an attrative employee to outside industry should i decide to move companies.
Thanks